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Author Topic: Possible art deco bowl,help needed - could it be WMF?  (Read 321 times)

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Offline essi

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Possible art deco bowl,help needed - could it be WMF?
« on: September 24, 2017, 06:56:55 PM »
Picked this up today. It is 157mm high,306mm across the top and 116mm at the base and heavy.
The detail is very difficult to describe, the silver mica seems to more on the outer surface.
The method of manufacture I have no idea, is it a known technique?
The base ring has a green uv response.
I am stumped with this one.
Help needed,
Tim

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Re: Possible art deco bowl,help needed.
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2017, 06:29:08 AM »
No idea. I suspect the mica is actually silver foil and the bowl newer than Art Deco though

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Re: Possible art deco bowl,help needed.
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2017, 10:08:01 AM »
I'm going to have to disagree with Christine as I do think it is a piece from the 1930s to 40s. Stylistically it's not far from what WMF were making in the inter war years. It's also a little reminiscent of Reich/CMS production from the 40s. However, I can't find an exact match from either of these makers so far. The bowl is ringing a bell somehow. I'm sure I've seen a similar decor with cased colours and mica, maybe on a thirties Czech lampbase. I'll keep looking and see if I can turn up anything. What I can be sure of is that your bowl is a great piece whoever made it.

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Re: Possible art deco bowl,help needed.
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2017, 11:31:39 AM »
Looking again at the piece, the ground foot and circular ground out pontil mark are spot on for WMF. The way the colours are laid on looks good too, but I still can't find another piece with this exact decor. It also lacks the crackle effect that's seen on much Ikora glass. Still I'm getting a strong WMF vibe from it: hopefully someone with more knowledge or a copy of the WMF book will drop in to confirm whether or not my suspicions are correct. Updating the thread title to something more descriptive might help too.

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Re: Possible art deco bowl,help needed.
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2017, 07:21:37 PM »
http://www.humlernolan.com/Auctions/June-2012/Art-Glass/0665

Very similar but unfortunately no maker given

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Re: Possible art deco bowl,help needed.
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2017, 07:36:52 PM »
Thanks to all who have responded. I know base wear is not always an accurate guide but to me this item had a bit of age about it.
I will delve into the possible WMF connection.
The picture of the glass for sale looks a dead ringer for my item.
Thanks again,
Tim

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Re: Possible art deco bowl,help needed.
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2017, 07:39:22 PM »
From a purely self interest point of view to the moderators, could this topic get a run out in the German section on a possible wmf connection.
Thanks,
Tim

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Re: Possible art deco bowl,help needed.
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2017, 06:52:14 AM »
Hi Tim,
very nice bowl!
I looked through the Ikora glass book, but couldn't find a match there.
And though I do agree that at first sight Ikora seems possible (shape, base finish), the technique looks somehow different to me.
I wonder if it is aquainted to this vase posted a while back, showing similar colour, swirling pattern and Mica:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,41170.0.html
Another one of these here under Not-Ysart: http://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/NotYsart.htm
Possible origin suggested was Czechoslovakia or Belgium...

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Re: Possible art deco bowl,help needed.
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2017, 08:47:01 AM »
nice bowl Tim and a good find  -  regret not my area so unable to help with anything useful as to origin or age.            Whilst I understand what is being implied here by the term art deco, it's well to remember that this term refers to a particular style or design rather a period, and I appreciate  that your description doesn't suggest this bowl is c. 90 years old :)          Something made yesterday may just as correctly be described as art deco as a some of the most iconic Lalique or distinctive angular furniture from the late '20s or '30s. 
I could be very wrong, but imho this piece appears to have an ogee outline to the shape and doesn't come across as particularly deco in style, or at least it may have been a shape used far less commonly than others during that period.
I hope that you get an id eventually.

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Re: Possible art deco bowl,help needed.
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2017, 04:46:00 PM »
From a purely self interest point of view to the moderators, could this topic get a run out in the German section on a possible wmf connection.
Thanks,
Tim


Hi Tim, not until we know it is German, sorry. ID requests belong in Glass.  I can add WMF? to your topic subject instead though, I'll do that now. :)

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