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Re: E.Varnish mercury glass with embossed seal, circa 1849
« Reply #260 on: July 18, 2018, 02:17:07 PM »
I lost this link a while ago and had wanted to post it on this thread.
This is a giant (3ft or so?) pair of silvered vases in The Šumava Museum in Czech Republic:

https://klatovsky.denik.cz/zpravy_region/muzeum-vystavuje-nejluxusnejsi-vazy20120121.html

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'Nejluxusnější vázy ze stříbřeného skla v Evropě, které jsou vystaveny v Muzeu Šumavy v Sušici.'

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Re: E.Varnish mercury glass with embossed seal, circa 1849
« Reply #261 on: July 18, 2018, 11:50:59 PM »
Okay, I have to admit that my Czech or my Slovak or my whatever is not very good. And I have totally lost the plot here after 20 odd pages. But looking at those vases, is the glass clear, and then silvered and then etched or is it ct away to the silver or....

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Re: E.Varnish mercury glass with embossed seal, circa 1849
« Reply #262 on: July 19, 2018, 12:15:26 AM »
As far as I know,  they are 'blown as double walled' glass, silvered with a solution poured inside between the two walls and then etched and engraved on the outside wall.
I have three pieces - small - one is a goblet,two are salts (one of which has an impressed mark on the seal in the base).


So they are made as double walled glass with a hole in the base where the silver solution (however it was made - see this thread for some various methods of how it was done) was poured inside from the base, to line the interior sides of the two walls.  Then, when it was dry I guess, the hole was sealed.  In the case of mine with some form of metallic seal which may be lead (I do not know and have not tested mine).

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« Reply #263 on: October 22, 2018, 11:13:32 PM »
In reply 207 I asked:

Topic:  What happened to Frederick Hale Thomson?

1) On the 23rd June 1853 Frederick Hale Thomson filed for Bankruptcy.

2) I have also added in this post - his death notice which has some detail about him.

It's mainly about his his surgeon year but  refers to his glass company as the 'Glass-Silvering Company' and calls it a 'speculation'.
It links his death to this venture.


1) Bankruptcy notice in the Press gazette:
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/21455/page/1900/data.pdf


This led to the following posts, one about his death (reply#198)
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,65670.msg368239.html#msg368239

And the other in memorium which talks about the failure of his business and how it affected him(reply#197)
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,65670.msg368235.html#msg368235



So he may have still been making silvered glass items (I'm thinking more finger plates, plates for boxes, smaller more mass produced items possibly?) after September 1851 when the company (Thomson, Varnish and Cookney) was disbanded.



2) Death notice in the Lancet:
Click here to view




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I don't know if I mentioned this before but in the Mechanics Magazine Saturday September 27 1851 (see page 241 of link for cover and date), on page 259 at the bottom right hand side,it says under the heading 'Weekly List of New English Patents' - 'Frederick Hale Thompson of Berner's-street, Middlesex, gentleman, and George Foord,of Wardour-street,in the same county, chemist, for improvements in bending and annealing glass.'

So, Frederick Hale Thompson was still experimenting with glass ideas on 27 September 1851 with a chemist called George Foord.

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That patent number found in this link on page 325 was Patent number 13751  registered to Frederick Hale Thompson and George Foord.

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Kev,sorry!  I've forgotten again how to shorten the links.  Apologies.  Mod: Link shortened for you :)

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Re: E.Varnish mercury glass with embossed seal, circa 1849
« Reply #264 on: October 23, 2018, 12:28:38 AM »
Topic:  What happened to Frederick Hale Thomson?

I think that this link shows that according to the National Archives, Hale Thompson's  'correspondence and papers including notebooks of chemical experiments' and dating from 1834-1854  are/were held under item number 6200 by the ' Surrey History Centre':

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/N13921793


That appears to be in Woking from this info:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/a/A13531418


Surrey History Centre Browse repositories
130 Goldsworth Road
Woking
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GU21 6ND

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01483 518 737

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01483 518 738

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shs@surreycc.gov.uk

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« Reply #265 on: October 23, 2018, 12:49:05 AM »
Here is a description of that patent given to Hale Thompson and George Foord:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qss-AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA368&dq=george+foord+glass+patent&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiUrNDlqpveAhVKDMAKHaegDLcQ6AEIMTAC#v=onepage&q=george%20foord%20glass%20patent&f=false

Page 367

Basically to make reflectors and other items using molds?

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Re: E.Varnish mercury glass with embossed seal, circa 1849
« Reply #266 on: October 24, 2018, 08:31:15 AM »
Thank you Kev  :)

 

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