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Re: Monart bowl?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 11:24:32 PM »
Is that the fabulous Ysart Glass book by Frank Andrews, Andy?  Frank's a long-standing member of this board.  8)
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Re: Monart bowl?
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2018, 12:56:40 PM »
Hi Anne,

Yes it is, I found a copy on line, can't wait to get it and start reading.

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Re: Monart bowl?
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2018, 01:05:43 PM »
Frank Andrews and Ian Turner although Ian's not a member here. ;)
And it's Frank's Ysart site. So is the main one, Scotland's Glass.

You will also find a lot of information, browsing here.

Nigel Benson gave a really interesting lecture at the Edinburgh conference on whether Ysart glass should be considered to be the forerunner of the Studio Glass Movement, the only thing that disqualifies it is being considerably earlier than that, because the birth of the Studio Glass Movement can be accurately pinpointed to the date of the Toledo Lectures.

The Ysarts were working with materials that were rather inferior to those availavle today, they struggled to find coloured enamels during/between the wars and even ended up grinding down celedon glass (that opaque pale green, used in kitchens and bathrooms) and scraping the surfaces of ceramic tiles to obtain some (this is why Vasart glass has duller colours than Monart or Strathearn) and they were working in an old draughty wooden shed, they had real troubles with controling the temperatures of the annealling ovens.
Because of the troubles with the ovens, many bits of glass have since turned themselves into crazed jigsaws. They do still hold together.  Sometimes, damaged bits are well worth having, they're a lot cheaper than undamaged and still display well.

That's just a short potted resume of what I know, but I only flirt around the edges of Ysart glass and might not be overly accurate. My family collects it, so I know it, in terms of seeing it, holding it and discussing it, but I don't collect it myself. I only have two bits. One is a jigsaw. ;)
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Re: Monart bowl?
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2018, 03:54:00 PM »
and I know even less, but must admit much of that material is very desirable - I wouldn't dare start collecting it.

Not sure how they compare in price or availability, but I see that both parts I and II of the Christie's 1997/8 catalogues for the Parkington Collection are currently on Abe Books  ....................   part I is 11.90 and II is 15 - both post free, so good value for money bearing in mind the wide variety of factories shown, plus the addition of p/ws.
Without trying to be exact, there must have been something like 200 plus pieces of Monart in Michael Parkington's collection  -  the pix aren't massive, but the colour reproduction looks good, and many entries include the shape reference.               Also included were Vasart pieces and many of the Scottish p/ws.
Of course you don't get volume of text info. that you would in a book, but for the prices these catalogues are very worthwhile having in view of the other glass included - starting with the early C18 and coming right through to some of Baxter's designs for W/Fs.       I see there was a nice deep amethyst Walsh 'Water Lily, Iris and Bulrush' vase included. ;D

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Re: Monart bowl?
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2018, 11:00:50 PM »
It's a fascinating book Andy, I am very fortunate to have been gifted one. I don't have any Ysart glass to go with it (yet!) though.

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Re: Monart bowl?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2018, 11:08:45 AM »
Thanks again all for the information, I'm learning fast and it's great to be able to add knowledge about such an amazing family who gave so much to the glass industry. I'm leaning more to Monart but not sure I have the budget to add many pieces (can't stop buying early Mdina when I see it) still a joy to learn about.

The book should be here soon, I found a fairly cheap copy so hoping it's not too damaged.

I will also have a look at the Christies catalogues, they sound like a must have for reference.

 :)   Andy

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