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Author Topic: Is this vase,artdeco?  (Read 441 times)

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Offline lwerk

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Is this vase,artdeco?
« on: February 15, 2018, 12:04:17 PM »
Hallo,does anybody know where and when this vase was made?
Beautiful iridisend vase with treads and handles.handmade,height 15 cm,rough pontil.
Thank you very much,kind regards Lisa

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Re: Is this vase,artdeco?
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2018, 02:42:10 PM »
My guess is 1920s-30s Murano. The overall shape of the vase, and the applied rim and handles remind me of a pulegoso vase in my collection that was identified as Seguso Vetri d'Arte production from c.1930. However, I've not seen one with the ribbed pattern and iridescence before...

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Re: Is this vase,artdeco?
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2018, 05:30:41 PM »
It is clear glass that is iridescent,not pulegoso glass!

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Re: Is this vase,artdeco?
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2018, 10:32:05 PM »
although nothing to do with Lalique whatsoever, this spherical/ball shape was used a lot by that factory c. 1930.           This heavy, external relief type of either abstract or geometric pattern was not uncommon around that time, though applied handles such as these were not a usual feature of art deco style.              Provided a design/shape/pattern conforms to what the art world has decided meets the criteria for deco, then anything can be described as such, whether made yesterday or c. 1930  ..............  art deco is an artistic style and not an historic label for a particular period.
IMHO this piece might correctly be described as art deco, though the handles do detract a tad  ............... unfortunately, I've not the remotest idea when this piece was made, nor an inkling of its attribution - sorry :)

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Re: Is this vase,artdeco?
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2018, 09:48:02 AM »
I tend to associate an iridescent finish with Nouveau glass, more than with the Deco period at any rate.

I would look to Bohemia for this vase first, Fritz Heckert springs to mind.

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Re: Is this vase,artdeco?
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2018, 02:27:15 PM »
Thank you very much!

The vase is not that heavy it `s only 250 grams!

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Re: Is this vase,artdeco?
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2018, 05:07:36 PM »
Is the surface pattern not a sort of reptile skin texture?
That would lead me in a Bohemian direction too.
John knows more than I do about this!
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Re: Is this vase,artdeco?
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2018, 06:47:44 PM »
not texture  -  otherwise it would indeed be reptile skin, instead of glass ;D   .............  it does though remind me of the pattern of croc. or gator skin.            I'm with John too on his comments re iridescence and nouveau, but it's the round/ball shape of this one that IMHO has more relevance to deco than the sinuousy (?) and naturalistic leanings of nouveau  -  but then again I've been known to be wrong many times. ;D
Iridescence has a history, possibly longer than at first might be thought ............... it would be difficult to be adamant and say that more was produced in nouveau rather than the deco style - perhaps we associate more with the former though, for whatever reason.          Date wise you might trace it from c. 1890s through to c. 1940 - and think of all the Carnival that was made in the C20  -  so certainly covers both of the styles/periods that have been mentioned.

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Re: Is this vase,artdeco?
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2018, 10:56:46 PM »
I'be found this vase on Catawiki  :   https://veiling.catawiki.nl/kavels/10210983-loetz-toegeschreven-iriserend-glazen-vaas
Looks the same to me,but,they are not sure if it is Loetz.

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Re: Is this vase,artdeco?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2018, 07:36:17 AM »
It is clear glass that is iridescent,not pulegoso glass!

I wasn't saying yours is Pulegoso, just comparing it to a similarly shaped vase which is known in pulegoso glass. The kicked up base and snapped pontil mark look much more Italian than Bohemian to me, despite the surface similarities to Loetz or Kralik production, etc.

Here's another Italian vase -- again attributed to Seguso -- that has a similar surface texture: https://nyshowplace.com/seguso-24k-gold-and-clear-murano-glass-vase.html

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