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Author Topic: Ephemera - 1839 Molineaux Webb Ellis receipt  (Read 180 times)

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Offline neilh

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Ephemera - 1839 Molineaux Webb Ellis receipt
« on: July 08, 2018, 08:52:26 PM »
So here is a rare thing, bought off eBay. This is a 1839 receipt from Molineaux Webb Ellis to a glass merchant in Macclesfield. Although I can't make out the whole inscription, the main items are a number of tall taper gadroon tumblers, and a single cut decanter, bottle and pickle jar. And then another load of tall taper gadroon (something or other)

It's unusual to see this sort of ephemera pre 1850 for any business, let alone glass manufacturers. Does anyone know if others have come to light in British Victorian glass?

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Re: Ephemera - 1839 Molineaux Webb Ellis receipt
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2018, 08:38:07 PM »
It's fascinating and thank you for sharing.

Just in case this helps, I deciphered a little of it like this (plenty wrong/missing but might fill in some bits for you maybe)

12 of the (or 12 doz & 6?)  Tali/tub/Sali?? taper Gadroon tumblers
1 Cut Decanter stopper
1 cut pickle jar 
1 cut bottle   
Cutting off decanter
12 of the (or 12 doz & 4?) Tali/tub/Sali?? taper Gadroon (twists ?)
               Paid for (?carriage?)  ????
By the (auditor?)  ????   
               Invoice Returned
               Discount   

Sir Iíve forwarded the above on 23 (last? Or Sept?) &
Trust they have arrived safe and to your
Satisfaction.  The (2doz?) have ????   ????
Be made and sent next much without fail.
Your further (cargo? Orders?) will oblige to
Always have our very best attention.
   Yours very respectfuly
Molineaux Webb
      Mr ????Smith
Sept26/39   


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Re: Ephemera - 1839 Molineaux Webb Ellis receipt
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2018, 05:17:19 AM »
Thanks for the effort, you've filled in a few blanks which I could not decipher. The signature is David Wilkinson, who became a full partner in the business in the 1850s after a brief spell with Percival Vickers in the 1840s

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Re: Ephemera - 1839 Molineaux Webb Ellis receipt
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2018, 07:28:01 AM »
should read:


Sir Iíve forwarded the above on 23 (last? Or Sept?) &
Trust they have arrived safe and to your
Satisfaction. 
The (2doz?) ? the  ?     shall
Be made and sent next week without fail.
Your further (cargo? Orders?) will oblige and
Always have our very best attention.

Is it addressed in the top left hand corner to Mr William (Wm) Staghall? 

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Re: Ephemera - 1839 Molineaux Webb Ellis receipt
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2018, 08:11:46 AM »
see above (better wording deciphering :) )
Also, had they changed their name to Molineaux rather than Molineux by 1839 then?
So it is incorrectly spelled in this directory from 1846?
 https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=2TZPAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA6-PA23&dq=molineux+webb+glass+ancoats&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiX4KjikZ7cAhVIKsAKHYWtAZgQ6AEINDAC#v=onepage&q=molineaux%20webb%20glass%20ancoats&f=false

Here in the Law Journal under Gazette from 1844 Friday October 4, they have the names as creditors for a bankrupt as
Thomas Molyneux, Thomas Webb, Mary Ellis, and Boulton Molineaux.
Two different spellings of the name. Or is different family branches of the family who kept or changed the spelling?
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=j4YDAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA2-PA50&dq=molineaux+webb+ellis+glass&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwt82glJ7cAhVTSsAKHX0lAvQQ6AEIPTAE#v=onepage&q=molineaux%20webb%20ellis%20glass&f=false


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Re: Ephemera - 1839 Molineaux Webb Ellis receipt
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2018, 08:36:18 AM »
The family name was always Molineaux, everything else is a lax spelling. Ironically, the one branch of the family I am in touch with, changed the spelling to Molineux in the late 19th century because they got fed up with everyone getting their name wrong!

 

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