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An unusual Davidson piece, and a mystery uranium stem
« on: August 10, 2006, 03:02:22 AM »
Hello all
I have not written in a while, but wanted to show two pieces that showed up from England today (both made it safely to Oklahoma!).
the first is a Blue opalescent ice cream dish from Davidson.  I now have two sizes.  The blue one is the smaller of the two, and the second link shows how it 'stacks' inside the primrose pearline version.  
http://www.vaselineglass.org/blueshell.jpg
http://www.vaselineglass.org/blueshell1.jpg
http://www.vaselineglass.org/blue2x.jpg
and, here is a photo of just the yellow version:
http://www.vaselineglass.org/davidsonicecream.jpg
I am still trying to find one of the PRIMROSE PEARLINE versions in the smaller size.  I bought 4 of the blue small versions in a single auction.

The next one is a real mystery.
The stem is 3 1/4" across the top.  It is 4 3/4" tall.  It is deep cut just below the top rim and just above the stem.  There is a heraldry or coat of arms and a latin saying below it, translating to something like "LIFE, SOCIETY, & HOPE".  What is really unusual about this is the color.  It is a very rich amber, yet has a high uranium content.  It is also a very heavy piece of glass, weighing in at 11.45 ounces (345 grams).  here are some photos.  The black and white photo was converted to get a better look at the coat of arms symbol.  The bottom has a polished pontil and shows good age in the surface wear.
http://www.vaselineglass.org/latin1.jpg
http://www.vaselineglass.org/latinbw.jpg
http://www.vaselineglass.org/latincloseup.jpg
http://www.vaselineglass.org/latincloseup1.jpg
http://www.vaselineglass.org/latin.jpg

I also noticed from my close up photo that I did not clean it very well before taking the pictures.  the almond vertical cuttings on the top rim are dirty in the deep crevices.  Anyway, any help on who might have made the stemware or even approximate age might be of some help!  The color is an exactl match to grade A fancy maple syrup!  The piece was advertised as an amber glass, but I could see the green highlights around the edges and took a chance (that paid off handsomely!)

Dave
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2006, 08:18:00 AM »
Hi Dave -

The emblem on the left hand half of the shield looks like a Maltese cross.  :?

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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2006, 08:48:59 AM »
Critter at the top is a segreant Griffon and the coronet/wreath he rises from indicates a member of the non-royal nobility and that is also a warrior. The cross is not a Maltese, more like a crusader, the dove and olive branch mean peace. The horizontal lines behind the Griffon are the convention for blue, if the other side is plain it will be white or silver. (If dotted Yellow or Gold)

Actually tracking down the family would involve contacting th College of Arms in London for English nobility, but it could be an Irish arms or other European.

A browse through a copy of Burke's Peerage might be the easiest.

http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2006, 12:57:33 PM »
there is a website called allexperts.com and someone was able to provide the proper definition for the latin wording on my cup.  here it is:

The motto “Animae Crux Anchora “ means literally: "The cross [is] the anchor of the soul".

In fact:

-ANIMAE (singular genitive case of the noun ANIMA, 1st.declension)  means “of the soul”.

-CRUX ( singular nominative case of this noun which belongs to the 3rd.declension) means “the cross” as the symbol of Christianity, which helps us to endure pain. It is the subject of the phrase.

-ANCHORA ( singular nominative case of this noun which belongs to the 1st. declension) means “the anchor” as a source of security. It is the Predicate Nominative of the phrase.

In this Latin motto, as well as in other mottoes, the present indicative 3rd.pers.sing. EST (‘is’ in English) has been omitted  as it was not necessary  for comprehension.

Someone in another email group suggested that this cup might be a communion cup.  The cup holds 5 oz. to the top rim, so is sort of small (or would just have to be refilled a lot).

ANYONE ever see this color of uranium glass before?


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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2006, 04:37:32 PM »
I would go for Thomas Webb's sunshine Amber if it truly is a golden amber. See here, but scroll down http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6672.0.html

Or if a more brown amber, Royal Brierley dark amber

Or there also appears to have been an unknown Midlands/Stourbridge manufacturer/engaver of sunshine amber type uranium glass as well!

Or Edinburgh Crystal produced a uranium amber that looked like Sunshine Amber (different formula though) after it merged with Webb.

That's given some UK thoughts. Here a continental Europe thought, although possibly less likely, in palest brown amber. See here but scroll down
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5843.0.html


BTW You're cheating that's not proper US vaseline, that's MY type of vaseline :shock:  :evil:


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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2006, 05:04:48 PM »
Dave...I thought it was an odd colour when you posted it, but thought 'hey, he knows what he's talking about!'.  It's green isn't it?  Not amber?  Your initial posting was ambiguous to me because I don't know what Grade  A Fancy Maple Syrup colour is...lol
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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2006, 05:08:09 PM »
It's amber Max, but only when there's no UV light to be seen                      :shock: Honest


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« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2006, 07:20:19 PM »
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/02532.html

this (presumably WMF) amber vase is vividly green if blacklit  :wink:

If I look diagonally through the upper rim I see the uranium green also in daylight  :)
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2006, 08:02:34 PM »
Thanks Christine...I'm going to watch this thread with interest, looks like I'll learn something.  :D
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2006, 10:15:00 PM »
Christine
I have the lid to that decanter that you posted a link to (specifically, THIS ONE:)
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/lustrousstone/IMG_0408.jpg
AND my cup in the daylight, bright sunlight (106 F today!) is an exact match!
( I once had a decanter and two lids, but sold it off, but kept one lid just for the color sample).
Having said that, I also have a piece of sunshine amber by Webb in my collection, and this cup is darker amber than Webb's sunshine amber.  
I am thinking continental Europe also, most likely Bohemian.  

The thing that surprises me most about this piece is it's weight!  11.45 oz (345grams) is heavy for a cup that is not 5" tall!  

Thanks for digging up that thread, to remind me to compare it to the stopper I have.  Indoors, the piece looks amber.  Outdoors (under the UV of the sun), it is more of a deep olive color.

Dave

 

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