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Offline Helen W.

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Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« on: August 18, 2018, 07:03:03 PM »
I've only just begun to read up on mid-century Czech glass, but when I bought this vase recently I knew I'd seen this vertical motif before in Jan Gabrhel's designs. However, I don't know whether he ever designed heavily textured glass of this sort.

The vase has been applied with a thick layer of glass particles, some areas of which are actually pretty abrasive. There are several flecks of some red substance which has seeped between the particles, and which could be ketchup, or could be the blood of a previous owner... :o

The motif is formed by deep circular indentations roughly 30mm in diameter. The rim is smooth and rounded. The base has been ground to make it level, but left unpolished and with some areas of abrasive particles.

Dimensions: weight is 1047g; height 22cm; diameter 8.2cm.

The front view of the vase makes it look as though it's leaning  - it doesn't. And I got the white balance wrong, so the colourless glass looks very grey. I've a lot to learn about this area of photography.


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Re: Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2018, 07:22:36 PM »
It's a bit hard to tell from the pics, but the general apprearance and your mention of red bits makes me wonder a little bit about Peill & Putzler.
They do have a maker's mark, but it's not on everything. It's of two capital letters P, back to back and sharing the upright. It is quite small and etched on, often on the side, near the base. It might be worth having a very careful look for it.
Horst Tusselmann used tiny bits of red and yellowy-green inclusions in some of his work for them.
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Re: Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2018, 07:30:32 PM »
Thank you, and tomorrow I'll try to add new photos that my camera hasn't tried to expose down to middle grey. ::) The vase actually has quite a sheen to it.

Will also look up Tusselmann, a new name to me.

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Re: Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2018, 12:45:52 PM »
This is what the Piell & Putzler mark looks like.

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Re: Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2018, 12:48:45 PM »
Thank you. That's useful to know, though sadly the mark is absent from this particular vase.


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Re: Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2018, 01:13:44 PM »
An enhanced photo of vase and motif:

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Re: Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2018, 02:57:02 PM »
I've been busy googling pics of P&P vases, and while there is a definite family resemblance, my vase would be their rough and rustic cousin.  ;)


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Re: Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 11:25:22 AM »
I've given the vase and its painfully textured surface yet another clean with a soft brush, followed by a vinegar rinse and... Suddenly it looks much more respectable - like a piece of art glass. I knew there had to be a reason why I bought it!

Still haven't found the P&P mark, but I'm leaning more now towards chopin-liszt's suggestion that this is in fact a Tueselmann design for them, though perhaps an early 'brutalist' example. ;)

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Re: Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2018, 11:43:32 AM »
Don't give up entirely on the possibility of Czech made, the rough surface from small glass particles attached to the outside is often called 'overshot' and this technique was used by Czech glass makers. It could of course be from elsewhere...

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Re: Is this textured cylinder vase Czech?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2018, 11:57:51 AM »
Thank you. I'm sure I've come across that term before. I'll investigate further.

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