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Offline ElsieJ

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Is this Whitefriars?
« on: October 20, 2018, 08:26:00 AM »
Hi,

Can anyone help me identify this vase. The pontil makes me think Whitefriars but I just canít pin it down.

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Re: Is this Whitefriars?
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2018, 04:14:54 PM »
I thought this was going to be the one you thought was Leerdam.  ;D
Loads of glass houses use round polished pontil marks to finish off a piece. Not just wfs. It's not a wfs shape or colourway.
But I do think it's something good.
I don't know what, my guts are rumbling towards Germany, but that might just be something I ate.
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Re: Is this Whitefriars?
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2018, 04:37:10 PM »
Thanks for your reply Sue. I bought both pieces along with an Andries Copier Serica 70 crackle dish so Iím thinking itís from a collector. Iím glad you think itís ďgoodĒ I do too but itís driving me nuts trying to identify it.
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Re: Is this Whitefriars?
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2018, 05:15:08 PM »
 ;D Collectors do make mistakes. It's one of the ways we learn. Bitter experience!
But often mitigated by the finding of treasure.
Could you try to take another pic of the way the glass achieves the speckled effect - I can't work out how it was done from these fairly big images.
A plain white background  (paper, or a sheet) is very helpful.
Sometimes background stuff can get in the way of how we see things and can cause reflections which can also be confusing.
Glass isn't easy to photograph well and get it looking the way it does in reality - it's 3D. If you're the one taking the pic, you already know what it looks like, so you can see it properly in the image, your brain fills in all the correct details for you and ignores bits that don't fit.
We don't have that advantage. We see the bits that don't fit and can't work out if they're supposed to be there or not.  ;D

I assume the rim is rounded and smooth? Or is that cut and polished?

There are even different ways of polishing a rim - some are left just flat, others have tiny bevels on their edges, which is an indication of even better quality. Those are called arrises. I like that word, so you got both the story and the word.
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Re: Is this Whitefriars?
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2018, 05:52:37 PM »
Hi, I will do the photos tomorrow in daylight. If itís any help the rim is rounded and smooth and the ďbitsĒ are thousands of tiny random bubbles. No inclusions. The surface of the glass is smooth though not lumpy.

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Re: Is this Whitefriars?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2018, 06:06:35 PM »
Thousands of tiny bubbles? That really helps. Not me, I'm afraid, but it will really help somebody who has a better idea and knowledge in whatever area this is from. I would not rule out Murano. (another area I avoid!)
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