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Author Topic: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase  (Read 3746 times)

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Offline laurapmccracken

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Purchased this vase over the weekend and am trying to narrow down the glass house.  I feel it is in the style of Prof. Max Rade by Fritz Heckert but I have also looked at Novy Bor (Karl Pohl) whom seller felt it was attributed to.  It is approx. 8.25" and marked with a red 5 underside.  Thank you for any kind assistance!

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Re: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 07:15:21 PM »
Hi Laura, welcome to the board.

I have moved your topic to the Glassforum as that is where ID requests belong until a form ID is made, when a moderator will move it to another forum.
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Re: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 10:01:28 PM »
Hi, the shape and gilding on the neck also reminds me of a Mont Joye or a Legras vase in style.
Also the color and style of the lavender pink flowers.
French might be worth looking into?

Can we please see a very clear photograph of the base.  Thanks

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Re: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2018, 08:17:06 AM »
I'm not too sure about french …

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Re: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2018, 08:28:50 AM »
this one says it is Mont Joye (no comment in the sale blurb on whether it is marked though !) but it is the shape I was thinking of?
https://www.cottoneauctions.com/lots/36943/mont-joye-vase-with-painted-enameled-chrysanthemums

this advert shows the shape,or similar in the Legras book possibly?
https://www.tweedehands.nl/antiek-kunst/antiek/glaswerk-kristal/antieke-art-nouveau-montjoye-legras-320403407.html

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Re: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2018, 09:55:39 AM »
Nothing like this in the Heckert book by F. Zelasco.

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Re: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2018, 10:37:27 AM »
this one says it is Mont Joye (no comment in the sale blurb on whether it is marked though !) but it is the shape I was thinking of?
https://www.cottoneauctions.com/lots/36943/mont-joye-vase-with-painted-enameled-chrysanthemums

this advert shows the shape,or similar in the Legras book possibly?
https://www.tweedehands.nl/antiek-kunst/antiek/glaswerk-kristal/antieke-art-nouveau-montjoye-legras-320403407.html


Both vases are made by Legras and are the same model, vase 'Olga'.

Just for the occasion …. It's a bit confusing but Legras was absorbed by Souchon-Neuvesel  and they were part of the 'Verreries de Saint-Denis et de Pantin réunis'.
Auguste Heilgenstein collaborated between 1926 and 1931 with S-N and created a series of thick glass items, often coloured with enamel powders and acid cut. A small production, rarely signed by his own name (Heiligenstein) that was given the name 'Montjoye et SD', signed often by diamond point or gold paint.

Montjoye often does use long petaled chrysanthemums in their decor, much more than Legras, but in both cases the enamel is much thicker. The enamel of the vase in question is much thinner. Landscapes at either production are very often acid cut or transfer printed before applying enamel powders (Delft series).


Of course the decor of the vase in question is completely different, but i'm only trying to point out the difference of the enamel and in any case,  this shape is not unique to either Legras or Montjoye. The gilding on the rim at Legras and Montjoye is always powdered (putoisé) which clearly here, is not the case.


Having said all of that, I couldn't tell who has made this vase. I only have a few examples  of Heckert in Das Böhmische Glas, and the decor on the vase in question looks a bit less 'neat'.

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Re: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2018, 03:41:46 PM »

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Re: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2018, 04:26:00 PM »
What is the pontil mark like btw?  just curious to know.
Thanks
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Re: Fritz Heckert? Wonderful Enameled Art Glass Landscape Scenic Vase
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2018, 04:48:11 PM »
Not that I have much experience with this type of glass but when I saw this I instantly thought Legras because of gilding and glass . I've only ever had a couple of legras pieces though so I could be wrong, sure the items I had both had numbers painted on base too.

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