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Offline AndreaA1

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Rudolfova "Roma" vase?
« on: June 03, 2019, 04:59:02 AM »
Hello!

I picked this marvelous vase up at my local thrift shop, and am wondering whether it is a 'Roma' vase by Rudolph Schrotter? I have not been able to locate another vase like it, but the ashtray in the Roma pattern appears to be a direct match.

The vase measures slightly over 8" high and 6" wide

I appreciate any assistance from anyone knowledgeable in Czech glass. Thank you!

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Re: Rudolfova "Roma" vase?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2019, 05:12:07 AM »
I'm happy to have found a post where a lovely "Roma" ashtray is identified by Marcus... but I have yet to be able to locate a vase in the same pattern. Can anyone assist?

Link to the previous discussion and photo here: https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,16120.msg95397.html#msg95397

Much appreciated!

Andrea

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Re: Rudolfova "Roma" vase?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2019, 06:40:23 AM »
Page 16 of the pre '58 catalogue shows a vase 12540 @ 30 cm/12" but it doesn't have the added rim like on your vase. I'm afraid I don't know much about this type of glass so I'm not the best person to help you out, but maybe somebody will spot it.

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Re: Rudolfova "Roma" vase?
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2019, 08:00:56 AM »
the similarity of this vase to the basic shape and pattern of item 12540 in the catalogue is striking - though there are differences as mentioned by Anne  -  the absence of a short top rim and, in the catalogue, there appears to be a short foot rim.
However, the same catalogue page also shows another example in this pattern, No. 12449, with a height of 200mm (c. 8 inches).
Unfortunately this shorter model has curved sides, so is not a match, but I mention this because the smaller example does have a top rim and a much smaller foot rim than the larger vase.
Bearing in mind the closeness of the overall appearance, is it possible that some of this pattern were produced in a slightly non-standard design.
I don't see this pattern in Mark Hill's book, and I could be missing it, but don't see a pattern 'name' on the catalogue page.
Looking at Pamela Wessendorf's 'glasspavillon' site, there is another unrelated but vaguely similar vase from Inwald, and here also there are substantial 'lobes' - so Schrotter must have had a thing about such designs.

This is a great looking vase and a v.g. find.

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Re: Rudolfova "Roma" vase?
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2019, 11:06:02 AM »
I agree with Paul, i's a good looking piece. I'm thinking, it looks sort of structured, almost roman like 🙄 the penny dropped a few minutes later...sorry, not the sharpest knife in the drawer at the moment here.

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Re: Rudolfova "Roma" vase?
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2019, 06:07:55 PM »
Oh I had a good chuckle from your post, Anne  ;D- it's true that with the straight columns it really is aptly named.

Thank you to both you and Paul taking the time to dig a little for me. I will re-review what material I have here with your comments in mind, and see where it leads.

My interest had already been piqued re: Czech glass, but this piece in particular has cemented it and the collection grows daily... Which is a problem since my living room is already looking like the United Nations' glassworks... Scandinavia on one wall, Canada on another, a shelf for the US, another for the Brits, a bit of Italy in a corner...(!)  :o

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