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Author Topic: Isle of Wight Goblet - Pink swirl stem/clear bowl  (Read 139 times)

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Offline catshome

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Isle of Wight Goblet - Pink swirl stem/clear bowl
« on: June 12, 2019, 05:21:53 PM »
18cm high, rough, snapped off pontil.  Partial label with three lines of text - second half of the 1970s? 

I have seen one, that appears very similar, attributed to Michael Harris.

Any information gratefully received.

Many thanks
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Re: Isle of Wight Goblet - Pink swirl stem/clear bowl
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2019, 05:54:36 PM »
Never seen one with a pink stem before, only seen this shape with a blue stem (4 examples) like the one on the right here, it also has the same label by the look of it:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51225.0.html

Perhaps like the early swirl paperweights, small bullet bowls and lollipops they could have been made with pretty much any colour. My guess is earlier in the 70s rather than later, perhaps 74 or 75ish. A similar label crops up without "England", pretty sure this version comes after.

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Re: Isle of Wight Goblet - Pink swirl stem/clear bowl
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2019, 06:07:16 PM »
There is nothing in the book about the rectangular white label without England included, but I've found a very early bit of IoWSG, a strapped piece which is made with the teal coloured enamel brought back from Malta. The label itself is shorter in width.
Evidence that that label is, as you say, John, earlier than the label with England on it, but both labels are decidedly indicative of early work.
I can't add anything else, at all. ;D
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Re: Isle of Wight Goblet - Pink swirl stem/clear bowl
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2019, 07:31:00 PM »
I don't have the book yet, so I was going by the label info here

http://iowstudioglass.wikidot.com/labels#paperlabels

I found one in the sold items list On this site - 7th item down - you have to scroll past the currently available items
https://www.ashh-collectables.com/home/british-glass/


And I thought I had seen one a couple of weeks ago on eBay without labels, with the pink swirl starting halfway up the pedestal, but I might have dreamt it
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Re: Isle of Wight Goblet - Pink swirl stem/clear bowl
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2019, 02:39:10 PM »
The label i found is the short first one illustrated there. It is on a shorter cylinder vase that matches these ones in the top photo
http://iowstudioglass.wikidot.com/seawood

Anton's site dates them to '75, but there was considerable controversy in the discussions on the IoWSG forum about the name seawood and nothing was resolved satisfactorily at the end. My questions were left unanswered. I'm not convinced by the accuracy of the dates either, but they do have the flame pontil mark rather than a broken one of the coachbolt.
The short strapped Aurene stoppered bottle in the image under the "seawood" has the much longer rectangular, third label down, sort and the paper flame label.

It would be good to find out exactly when it was that the last of the Mdina enamels got used up.
And how much there was, and how far it went... ::)
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Re: Isle of Wight Goblet - Pink swirl stem/clear bowl
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2019, 04:07:29 PM »
It's a great site.  They also have information about Michael Harris experimenting with pink and blue swirl glass that was only originally produced in 1973-74.  Maybe he had a bit left over and made a few of these goblets, as there is blue in mine as well. 

I am loving getting back into learning about glass, especially as there is so much more information now then there was ten years ago!
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Re: Isle of Wight Goblet - Pink swirl stem/clear bowl
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2019, 04:24:33 PM »
Pink and bue are both common colours throughout IoWSG's history, there would not have been any "left over". It was only enamel that came from Mdina that was in short supply and not available in that exact colour, here.
But this period in the early '70s was a bit more free with experimentation than later on, once several designs had become established and from there on, new ranges got developed.

Then there was all the experimentation with William Walker (circa '79) when they developed their method for incorporating silver foil into glass for the Azurene ranges.
Michael Harris invented a special marver with tiny holes in its surface, under which air could be blown, to create a tiny vacuum pressure to hold foil flat on the surface so it could be picked up on the gather. He didn't patent it.
Then they had to work out how hot they could allow the glass to get without destroying the silver metal and having it start to react with the hot glass to create colours.

I've got a big cylinder that had been going just fine - until they put the rim into the glory hole and burnt all the foil around the top. It's all cloudy blue.  ;D
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