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Author Topic: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim  (Read 42935 times)

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Offline Ben.unwin

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Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« on: August 26, 2019, 01:59:48 PM »
Recently bought this goblet and its rather unusual compared to the normal versions.
It has a sort of pouring rim, would this have been intended or perhaps creating a beak to avoid it being scrapped altogether?
The base is unsigned and it seems to be rather yellowish.
Anyone know when this dates from or if it is rare?
Any help appreciated!  ;D

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Re: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2019, 02:06:35 PM »
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Re: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2019, 03:54:24 PM »
The yellowish tinge to the glass is perfectly normal for earlier Mdina - they used old milk bottles as cullet.
I'm not really sure what is going on with your goblet.  ;D

An "experimental" jug from the Boffos? One that didn't work terribly well and was not repeated?
I don't think you're looking so much at a "rarity" as "just something that got tried".
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2019, 08:46:02 PM »
I was thinking the early part of the 70s?
Thanks for the info, I put pictures up on facebook earlier and people were trying to buy it off me!
Rarity unfortunately doesn't mean value in this case!  :'(

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Re: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2019, 10:08:23 PM »
Sue, I saw this thread on the board with a Michael Harris goblet, and the colouring on the bowl seemed very similar to Ben's.  Could it possibly be by MH?  Please be gentle......I'm still learning 🤓
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Re: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2019, 10:04:55 AM »
Yes, I think it could be early-mid '70s given Boffos did jugs.  :)

No, I do not think it could be by Michael Harris.  :'(
He wouldn't have made a jug, given that was what the Boffos specifically did... and it's just not his "style".
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2019, 02:39:42 PM »
I see, yet again, I have omitted to add the link.  Adding it here, right now, before I forget again

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=65716.0

Sue, thank you for explaining about the jug element......I was focusing too heavily on the colours of the glass and swirls.  Somehow I equated the paler teal and softer swirls with very early.  Back to the books I think!
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Re: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2019, 02:56:23 PM »
The exact shade of teal varied a good bit, there is nothing can be told about dates from that, (apart from the deeper, later "jewel-like" blue, as Mark describes it; and MH's work is "wispier" than this. More delicate and more interesting.
Cheers, Sue (M)

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Re: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2019, 01:24:47 PM »
A rounded bowl shape at it's base tends to indicate an early date, after 1972 shapes generally became more squared.

I have been wondering if the relative size of knops can tell us anything but can't see much that is conclusive in my own photos...

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Re: Mdina goblet with spout or funny rim
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2019, 01:32:46 PM »
We don't actually know what size it is - whether it's chalice "big" or just wine goblet "small".
That style of single round knop is more often found on wine sized pieces.
The only time I've seen a singular big round knop on a large Chalice was an MDG Earthtones one which Patrick now has.
Knowing the size would help to discern whether or not the bottom is the more rounded shape you're noticing, john.
I am suspecting it might be quite big - the glass looks thick.  ???
Cheers, Sue (M)

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