Author Topic: Lalique????? (Read 1766 times)

Martinus · « **on:** August 23, 2006, 11:05:23 AM »

I have recently purchased a Lalique bowl but I am unsure if this is real or fake. Can anyone give me the contact details of somebody who would be able to help me.

Kind Regards
Martinus

Martinus · « **Reply #1 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:15:44 PM »

Ok, I have uploaded the picture hopefully it is ok, the vase is signed on the base "lalique" the signature is too small to show in a picture it is 15cm high 24cm width weighing around 3kg, any info would be greatly appreciated!!

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-2966

Ivo · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:42:32 PM »

Unable to locate this bowl in the 1932 general catalogue - but it could perhaps be a later item. The item is moulded and satinated all over, which is a process used by many makers - especially Barolac jumps to mind. It also looks a bit grey and cheerless for Lalique - but then I could be wrong and it could be the photograph. Finally it would be good if you could check the signature - what does it say precisely, is it needle engraved, moulded, or stamped?.

Martinus · « **Reply #3 on:** August 23, 2006, 12:55:10 PM »

The signature is needle engraved "lalique".

Anne · « **Reply #4 on:** August 23, 2006, 01:08:49 PM »

Martinus, regarding the signature, you might find a match here:
http://www.deco1925.com/sigexamples.html or here: http://www.libertys.com/glass.htm (scroll down for Lalique marks)

Martinus · « **Reply #5 on:** August 23, 2006, 01:37:51 PM »

Thanks Anne but I can't find it there. Maybe I need to contact a Lalique specialist.

B & M · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2006, 01:50:58 PM »

I'm sorry to say your bowl is not what it appears. It is in fact a Barolac pattern, originally produced by Inwald in Czechoslovakia from the mid 30's. It can be found in the 1948/50 Glassexport catalogue, available from Siegmar Geiselberger at pressglas-korespondenz.de

A number of these pieces have had fake sigiatures added, they turn up not infrequently on ebay. It's still a nice piece of glass in its own right, just a shame someone has tried to pass it off as something it isn't.

Martinus · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2006, 02:00:30 PM »

Thanks for the information, the signature did look a little false, do you have any idea what the value of this bowl would be now as it's not lalique :cry:

B & M · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2006, 02:23:40 PM »

Martinus, In truth it's very difficult to put a value on it. Interest in Barolac is seemingly growing, albeit slowly. I have seen a number of opal pieces offered at high prices, £200+, though plain frosted examples are more common and fetch much less. The fake signiature, to my mind, devalues this bowl further. Despite the high dealer prices, Barolac also often fails to perform well at auction. A nice looking opal example of the pattern failed to make its reserve when offered on ebay recently http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220016365913

I have a fair collection of Barolac http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=144 and have rarely paid more than £50 for good opal examples, the exceptions being an opal seahorse handled vase and unusual early fish design vase with silver plating, both of which cost me about £100 each from ebay. I consider these bargains, however, in comparison with what dealers ask and what French glass of the period fetches. Closest comparison with your bowl was a similar piece, late production in plain frosted glass, I saw at an antique centre last year with a price of £60

Steven

Martinus · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2006, 02:33:33 PM »

Again, thanks for the information, as you said the fake signature will also bring the price down. At least I now know it's not lalique and I did'nt pay that much for it thank god!!!!!