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Author Topic: Pendant lamp shade w/ enamel trail/spot decoration - poss. Czech/Austrian/German  (Read 2424 times)

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Offline Pinkspoons

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After looking at Heckert one thing I noticed is that where they used enamel, it's always very controlled, and where the design is more free-flowing, it's always applied glass.

Still, it's always good to spend a morning looking at very pretty glass.

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True.

However it is the one example where the use of enamels was varied and stylish ... and I think your lamp is stylish.
I think it's old :)  And I think it's Bohemian.

Possibly the catalogue to look up and find is this one:

https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/77370-williamsons-teplitz-glass-catalogue

Not the whole cat there unfortunately.  But probably relates to a similar period and eventually the maker of yours might be id'd. 
I think it does look like the one you linked to and perhaps more hope of having that id'd than yours given the decor?

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Hi, are you sure it’s a lamp? The chains look to impinge quite badly on the rim which seems an odd design, why wouldn’t they have made the rim a smaller diameter so that the chains clear?

Perhaps those handles are for show and it is supposed to go in a metal stand located on the stepped rim at the bottom.
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They're based on the idea of a Mosque Lamp I always think - so originally designed to hold oil I think?
https://en.expertissim.com/ceramic-mosque-lamp-mamluk-style-12176267

The handles are definitely handles.


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The chains, currently, do impinge on the glass a little, but that's because, at the moment, they come to a single point. I assume, originally, it was furnished with a ceiling rose, or even some kind of spacer bar / faux smut catcher, that held them apart a little wider.

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Not the whole cat there unfortunately.  But probably relates to a similar period and eventually the maker of yours might be id'd. 
I think it does look like the one you linked to and perhaps more hope of having that id'd than yours given the decor?

Complete catalogue here: https://archive.org/details/catalogueno15rwi00rwil/mode/2up

Perused it a few days ago, but nothing very close.

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Ok. It just seemed unnecessary to have the rim diameter so large, it looks like it’s the widest part so the chains would need to be at least vertical to clear.. You would assume a lamp might be viewed from below so why not make the rim smaller - is it a good design for a lamp? You can see on Flying Free’s second one, the rim is a much smaller diameter in proportion to where the handles are so that the suspension chains don’t interfere.

I was think of it in a stand like this one: https://www.catawiki.com/l/17588351-iridescent-green-glass-vase-on-metal-stand
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I understand. I mean, it's possible, but there's no indication that it ever had a stand (no rubbing to the sides, for example).

I even considered that it might have been a table lamp shade, one that sits loosely on a gallery, upside-down from its current orientation... but that wouldn't really explain the wear it does have.

It could also have just had a much finer chain on it originally. Mine's just a standard, somewhat wide, modern lighting chain.

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