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« on: October 27, 2005, 10:19:02 PM »
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and look out for SOS lidded cube sugars with integral sprung tongs — as both Davidson and Walsh made them (yes, Walsh did make pressed glass tableware),
Bernard C.  8)

I have one of these (not Spiderweb) which I have been trying to identify a maker for... I didn't know Walsh made these sugars as well, very interesting Bernard. :)
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2005, 12:12:11 AM »
Anne — unfortunately I don't recognise the pattern on your SOS cube sugar.

My two are:

Davidson — Fostoria American / Georgian pattern in flint, also made in jade (1931-34).   SOS lid marked "LLTD" on the side of the rim in relief, in a wide shield-shaped frame like a hallmark.

Walsh — as Reynolds fig.118 (i) which shows a conventionally metal lidded preserve jar with two rows of the pattern; this SOS cube sugar is lower and has just one row.   Identical SOS lid except marked "W L° C" in the first shield-shaped hallmark and then in a second rectangular one "A".   The tiny "O" in this mark could just be a badly formed "D" for Ltd.

I have looked for possible makers in Mappin's EPNS marks, but there are no obvious candidates.

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2005, 07:38:28 PM »
http://tinypic.com/f27ntu.jpg

Bernard. This is a sugar lump bowl I picked up yesterday for 75p Is it English or American? There are some markings in between the 'petals' of the sunburst  base but I can't quite make them out.
The base is heavily scratched suggesting some use and some age. Would you put this one as the 30's?
The lid markings are the same as you describe with the two shields. One elongated and one small square.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Doris


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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2005, 08:27:25 PM »
Doris — thanks for the photograph, particularly showing the maker's mark on the lid.

Again, as with Anne's example, I don't recognise the pattern.    It looks English or mainland European to me.

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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2005, 08:50:14 PM »
Thanks for your reply Bernard. My feeling is English and I am sure this design  I have seen on a wine glass somewhere but where :?
Will let you know if I do find out.

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2005, 09:36:09 PM »
Thank you Bernard. I checked the lid again in case I'd missed a mark but there is nothing on the lid either.


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Re: Sugar Bowls
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2008, 03:50:11 AM »
This is an old old topic resurrected, as I spotted what I thought to be also a sugar tong bowl but it has a sprung spoon instead of tongs like mine: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300207110659

Is the spoon version still intended for sugar or would it have been for something else?  And are the spoon versions less common than the tongs? (I've not seen the spoon version before.)


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Re: Sugar Bowls
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2008, 06:58:11 AM »
Misssed this thread the first time around, thank you for rekindling. So what about this one, then. The lid is silver plate and has tons of marks, the whole thing has tons of quality.
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Re: Sugar Bowls
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2008, 07:32:08 AM »
Anne — Like you, I've never seen a sprung spoon before.   That's quite the weirdest implement I've ever seen.   How did they manage to persuade someone to buy that.    It must have been brilliant salesmanship!   How about one of a set?   You can sell anything, however impractical, if it's one of a set.   My OH's matching stainless steel palette knife, ladle, and potato masher set has a point at the end of each handle (think about it).   ... and I don't recognise the pattern.

Ivo — Can't read the marks on the lid.   Have you checked Mappin?   The pattern could be Walsh — I have a marked trinket box in a similar pattern that I can't find in Reynolds.   The difficulty is that it's one of those fairly universal patterns that several glassworks could have made.   Walsh marks can be very faint.   Needs a perfect base star — any irregularity and it's not Walsh.    Could it be pressed?

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Re: Sugar Bowls
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2008, 08:10:17 AM »
Definitely cut crystal, not pressed. There are 2 hallmarks on the outside of the lid, one says "wL*g" the other "A".
The text on the mechanism reads

E.P.N.S. Pat. No. 14048/15
The S.O.S. Pascall's Patents


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