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Author Topic: ID needed: Brit DOG vaseline/uranium glass, DERBYSHIRE??  (Read 2915 times)

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ID needed: Brit DOG vaseline/uranium glass, DERBYSHIRE??
« on: August 31, 2006, 09:52:33 PM »
Hello all
Not sure who made this, and there are absolutely no markings anyplace on the piece.  There was a hint of a reference in Jenny Thompson's book (no illustrations) saying that dogs were made, many with no marks (books are packed away, so I cannot reference exact page).  This was in the Derbyshire chapter.  This piece has a base that is 4 1/4" in diameter (10.7 cm) and it is 4 5/8" tall (12.2 cm).  The base is hollow, up into the body.  I think the only chance of identifying it might be by the shape of the base.  The mould was 3 piece.  the top of the head shows where all of the mold pieces came together, giving it a very flat brow/ridge, just above the eyes.  Anyone have any thoughts on this piece?  It is flint glass.  I just got it from a seller in England.  The cost was about 60 GBP by the time I got done with shipping.

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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2006, 01:22:52 AM »
Dave:

I'm thinking this is Baccarat.  Look through the back issues of PressGlas Korrespondenz for catalog reprints from this factory from the 1870 - 80 period.  I do not have access to my files at this time so can't look for it myself.

My dog is frosted clear lead glass.  There is a matching cat which has been reproduced in the 1950s.

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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2006, 01:37:46 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2006, 01:50:21 AM »
Sid and everyone!

WAAAAAAAAY too cool!!!
thanks a lot!
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2006, 02:08:12 AM »
Sid, the seller said that she also had the cat, but it was too damaged, and was disposed of!  (DAMN!!!).  It was also vaseline glass.
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2006, 02:47:42 AM »
Dave:

That is a real shame!  The cat's ears are almost always chipped.

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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2006, 06:27:39 AM »
(http://tcwozere.co.uk/smileys/ac10.gif)  Well done Dave! Well spotted Sid!  Well jealous - Max.   :evil:

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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2006, 06:52:47 AM »
Well done Sid.

Besides the animal and human figures, watch out for the old rugged cross by Derbyshire, a rarity.   I've only seen one.   It has the "JD" trademark on the base, unusual as many glass houses would not put a commercial mark on a religious object.   The bull's head piano insulator is another rarity, again I've only seen the one, badly chipped.

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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2006, 07:08:23 AM »
Be aware that if there is a ridge underneath the sockle you may be looking at the Czech version modeled after the Baccarat version; Marc Christoph mentions this in the article.

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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2006, 12:59:33 PM »
Ivo
I can't read German (and thanks for pointing it out) but the only one I saw in the article with the ridge was the cat version.  Mine does not have a ridge, so I think I am safe.

Bernard:  I also have a photo around somewhere of a ram's head piano insulator.  The person that bought it on ebay donated it to the Broadfield House museum.  I *think* it is also a Derbyshire.  I was not aware of the old rugged cross.  I will have to keep my eyes peeled for that one.

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