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Offline Gill

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Czech or Val St Lambert? Art Deco Vases
« on: September 21, 2006, 08:41:07 AM »
I've seen these vases described as Val ST Lambert and Czech, do the experts fancy a vote on this? Cheers, Gill

URL: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3357

URL: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3356


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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2006, 10:42:59 AM »
I've seen smaller pieces in this pattern marked

'Made in Czechoslovakia'

So My vote is Czech

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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2006, 11:27:46 AM »
Thankyou very much Mike!


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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2006, 03:20:16 PM »
Just to muddy the waters slightly, Pamela has a pink clear vase in this pattern listed as VSL on her wonderful website here: http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/02640.html
and when I was at the 1st Northern Glass Fair last year (in Harrogate) there was a lady with a whole stall full of this stuff (mainly amber), which she had marked as Czech - some of them can be seen here:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-294

I know we have discussed these before - see thread here for thoughts at that time: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,2196.0.html


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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2006, 03:54:50 PM »
And I'll muddy the waters even more - I suspect there is another maker (that isn't Czech and isn't VSL). More about this when I can confirm further.

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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2006, 04:55:11 PM »
I'd also like to add that it is not without precedent that more than one factory should produce the same pattern. Two examples for now (there are more):

Brockwitz and Eda Glasbruks produced "Rose Garden" (Rosor  / Rosas) items. There are specific details surrounding this.

Sowerby and Inwald produced "Pinwheel" - also a third manufacturer is very possible. Again, there are specific details.

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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2006, 06:22:45 PM »
Wow everyone, thanks! Had a look at the links, difficult to say isn't it, I must admit they "seemed" Czech to me before I saw Pamela's site, very interested in the third alternative Glen.


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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2006, 07:06:18 PM »
Andy McConnell has a pink one marked Czechoslovakia. page 18 20th Century Glass


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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2006, 08:33:57 PM »
Hi to all!
Just a short notice on this one: my pressglas-pavillon site is not up to date unfortunately, especially in this item!  :oops:
latest news from Hamburg is: it is NOT VSL
(I've returned from a short holiday trip an hour ago - it's nice to be back here!  :D  )
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2006, 09:28:09 PM »
Thanks for the HOT news Pamela :D

 

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