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Author Topic: ID = Richardsons salt with peacock feather trails  (Read 6932 times)

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Offline Cathy B

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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2006, 01:53:27 AM »
And actually, silly for me not to having spotted it last night, but at 5.5" dia my piece is much larger (and with four trails, not three), so perhaps it was never intended to come with the stand. Is it still a salt, and if not, what is it?

Frank, I'm not surprised that Andrew Lineham would have a good pedigree, looking through that site. He's posted some original Frederick Carder drawings.

Thanks everyone!

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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2006, 08:02:11 AM »
I have always held that the applied shapes were stylised peacock feathers (not teardrops or tadpoles).

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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2006, 02:41:26 PM »
Hi Cathy,
the size of the item suggests it could be a preserve dish (to hold jam & the like for use at the table-not as storage)- these dishes often had/have silver plate holders, typically with a handle, to create a basket-like effect.
As for the drops, I've usually heard them described as 'peacock eye' decoration. The 'eye' as in the eye-like pattern in the peacock feathers. Very popular late-Victorian/proto-Art Nouveau design.
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« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2006, 03:06:26 PM »
Thanks Marinka and Glen!

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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2006, 03:25:24 PM »
Hi Cathy - a bit of background info....

In the "Journal of the Glass Association" Vol 5, 1997 there is an ad from "Harrods" Glass Dept., dated 1909 that shows vases with this kind of applied decoration. It is written as "The Original English Peacock Decoration".

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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2006, 04:53:11 PM »
I forgot to add a link to some photos. Bur first I should explain what they are!

Harry Northwood made a vase known to collectors as the Tornado vase. The name was given to it by US collectors based in Kansas (Tornado Alley) in the 1960s - though another group gave it the name Tadpole vase. In fact the vase is a pressed glass version of applied peacock feather motifs.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=30

(I have in fact just posted these photos for another thread on threading  :roll: )

Peacock feathers, tadoples. teardrops, tornadoes.

You say tomayto and I say tomahtoh  :lol:

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« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2006, 09:56:50 AM »
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Hi Cathy, from pieces illustrated in the books I have on Victorian glass, for all intents & purposes, your piece looks like Stuart.

The piece in question actually looks more like an example by Richardson's. See details at the following thread http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1901.0.html

Images can be found here (with different colouring & threading):

http://www.glassfairs.co.uk/peacock2.htm
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« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2012, 07:08:58 PM »
The links in the post above mine have disappeared.  The link to the salt on Andrew Lineham's site is still there although you need to go to the site and click on 'salts' to see the three-pull, three-peacock eye version.  This salt is now id's as Stuart on that site, not Stevens and Williams as was originally referred to.

I have just bought two bowls that I believe are the same or very similar, size and design to the one on this thread.  They are threaded however  but also have the rigaree trail and have a four pull-up crimped rim with four-peacock eye prunts and trails.  I believe they are the same as a bowl id'd in Gullivers Victorian Decorative Glass as Richardson c. 1907 page 204. 

http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300716235911%3FssPageName%3DSTRK:MEWNX:IT%26_trksid%3Dp3984.m1439.l2649&usg=AFQjCNGgmc-2HR-r9sxAJczu3yOf4BUv0w
 I'll post pics when they arrive to compare to the pic at the start of this thread.

The preserve dish at the start of this thread does look to be the same shape and with the same peacock eye's and rigaree as the bowls I've bought, but instead of the threading it is on a peach body.  Do we know it is definitely Richardson?

If mine are Richardson it will be interesting for me to compare the peacock eye's to my other pieces and known Stuart.
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