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This is so pretty - rather old, or just bashed about?
« on: October 17, 2006, 02:32:53 PM »
I really like this little button, it is very very scratched so the central cane is rather difficult to see - it is the same shape as the white canes, but yellow, with a ring of red, and a centre of red surrounded by blue. The weight is about 2 ins 50 mm diameter, glass is quite dark , very yellowy from some angles. Quite flat in profile, about an inch high, the base bulges out somewhat, and has a lot of pleats around an unfinished central pontil.

the ruffled canes looked a bit Bacchus-y to me, but I have seen so few Old English I am very wary about making any sort of id by myself.

What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2006, 04:05:11 PM »
The canes and your description of the yellow/darker glass bring to mind older Chinese origin but then I haven't had any real experience with old English weights either (except in photos :cry:).  Your little button weight is charming though.  The colors go well together, the pattern is pleasing, and it has a nice lacy look.

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2006, 04:22:54 PM »
I'm hoping KevH will be along later and will be able to shed some light, or Frank maybe...  

And then we'll both be wiser!!  

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2006, 04:27:41 PM »
Hi Lynne

I'm sure it is Chinese - probably pre 1950.  I have a dozen or so similar, mainly shallow domed concentrics, some with really nice fine detailed canes, and similar colours to yours.  Alan.
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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2006, 04:53:29 PM »
Hmph.

not much value in getting it polished up then .... :cry:  :cry:


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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2006, 05:32:36 PM »
Yes, I agree it looks like early Chinese.  Try polishing it yourself using jewellers rouge or something like that, as it's quite pretty and it would be nice to be able to see the canes more clearly.  They look to me like the rather more complex ones which were used in the older style of Chinese weights, when they were trying to copy the classic French and old English weights.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2006, 06:04:08 PM »
That's a good point Leni, I can practice polishing it up without worrying too much about losing a huge value.  And then who knows...

Maybe a Chinese person will want to bring it back home!  :roll:


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This is so pretty - rather old, or just bashed about?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2006, 01:51:11 AM »
I have a few of those. Definitely Chinese. The cane style, thin cane 'slices' and the very flat shape is typical. On some you can see 'China' handscratched on the bottom. It is often very had to see when the pontil is particularly rough or has a lot of wear.
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2006, 12:48:26 AM »
China-made, 1930s.


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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2006, 04:11:49 PM »
Quote from: "wrightoutlook"
China-made, 1930s.


got to be an improvement on China-made 2006 made, surely... 8)

 

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