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« on: October 18, 2006, 04:45:06 PM »
This is a rather nice colour in the flesh, sort of a deep apple green.  I have seen this kind of comport described as a patch stand?

Any ideas of approximately when this colour would date from, and roughly where in the world so I know where to start looking?  I have gone through loads of galleries so far, and it MIGHT be similar to Stevens Alabaster but I haven't ever seen that in the flesh so don't know how chalky it is.  This is opaque like fine porcelain, stands roughly 4 ins 100 mm high, diameter of dish 6 ins 150 mm. Three part construction, and there is a roughish pontil to the base.

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2006, 07:43:44 AM »
Hi

can't help say what it is, but I can possibly dismiss some possibilities and open some new avenues

Am I right in thinking its NOT moulded but blow? -the colour is quite like a few moulded glass colours -eg Davidsons Jade -but it looks too good quality.

Assuming its the colour is true on the picture then its not Stevens and Williams Alabaster -they never managed such a pure green

But there is, I guess, the possibility of Steuben Alabaster/Jade -but I think probably not - or I believe a Murano company produced alabaster style glass in the 60s - very like S&W but better colours- It could be that!

hope this helps

Mike


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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2006, 07:47:42 AM »
Yes, it certainly seems blown, I can't see any traces of any mould marks.  

I can't comment on the colour on your monitor of course, as it may look differently on there to on mine, but the colour is apple with a tiny touch of olive making a little more drab.  So perhaps a little more drab than the colour on the pic, if you are seeing the same as me that is  :roll:

It is very nice quality I think.  It doesn;t look like a modern colour if you know what I mean?


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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2006, 08:48:08 AM »
Is it uranium glass? That may help for starters? I think think there were also Czech companies who made jade/alabaster glass. Is the glass uniform or has it a pulegoso-like effect wth thousands of minute bubbles?


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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2006, 09:24:34 AM »
Hi Christine, no fluorescence at all.  

Even flat toned glass, no bubbles.  It is opaque in the same way as thin porcelain - i.e. when you hold it to the light you can see your fingers through the glass, but only as a faint shadow normally.


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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2006, 12:18:32 PM »
I would look across the Atlantic. Your jade looks quite a deep darkish green. Westmoreland, Fenton and Steuben all made jade glass that looks darker than anything I've got here. Have a look at this one of Blair's
http://www.glasshound.com/Steuben_glass_vase_jade_alabaster_316.html


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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2006, 01:37:20 PM »
Hmmm.  

So I've looked at all the different jade glass colours.

Jobling is uranium this isn't .  Fenton and Westmoreland are both whiter and bluer than this green, which is very appley rather than blue-y.

Davidson's is nearest in texture and the colour is appley like this, but seems much darker than this one.  Bagley is more opalescent...

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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2006, 02:12:22 PM »
Hi,

If it weren't opaque green I would suspect Pairpoint. The overall shape etc., is like a number of their items I have in different colors and glass types. Since I'm only interested in some of their glass;   I haven't done a lot of research on everything and color they have made over the years.

If you don't know you should: Pairpoint has had a few lives as a glass company, open, closed, open, closed, open.... The original took over Mt. Washington Glass and then Gunderson Pairpoint did their own thing plus some glass the original was doing and then Bryden Pairpoint took over and they too did their own thing, plus some glass like the two before. Pairpoint is now owned and operated by someone else, but I can't recall who.

I am told that the original Pairpoint and Gunderson both finely finished their wares, while Bryden sometimes left rough or bumpy feeling pontil scars on some of their lines, which appears to be their opaque type glass, since all of the transparent 34% lead glass I own or have have seen has well ground and polished pontils.

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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2006, 02:38:36 PM »
I don't think it's English and it's the wrong shade for Reich, their jade is also uranium and a bit streaky.


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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2006, 02:41:36 PM »
Ok so what have we got so far....

it's apple green, not blue green. It's solid opaque but not opal or chalky.  It's not an English colour , but it doesn't match the US colours that well.  It is not uranium.

What about the shape, might that help anyone to make a guess?

 

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