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Offline David E

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Czech dish/bowl? Strange formed base
« on: October 24, 2006, 09:52:23 AM »
Had this for yonks but thought I'd give it a whirl and see if I can't nail down an attribution.

I hesitate to place this as Murano or Scandi as can be seen from the odd-looking base. This is formed, not ground, and is quite deep. The glass is entirely yellow-amber but is not reactive to UV (black) light to either Cadmium or Uranium.

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Dish/Bowl
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Base 1
Base 2

The dish is just over 13" (33cm) long, well made and I have already enquired with Marcus, who reckoned (if it was Czech) that Mstisov glassworks was a possibility.
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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2006, 10:13:43 AM »
Is the inside "button" depressed in the center so that it would hold a taper candle?

Your piece resembles a Tiffin Modern candleholder but much larger.

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2006, 10:32:48 AM »
Hi Connie,

There is no depression on the inside - no place to put a candle - but I did look around for Tiffin Modern and found the following:

http://www.dealersdirect.com/Dealer/Keller/Photos/tif2.jpg

Similar, but I don't think this is conclusive.
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2006, 10:52:06 AM »
David -

That was the style that I was thinking about.  The color is called Golden Banana.

BUT the bottom of Tiffin Modern pieces will normally be flat.  I looked through my books and saw that they made 7 in candleholders in the same shape which hold a taper in the center.  I was thinking that possibly yours could have been made as a centerpiece bowl made to hold candle in center.

But if there is no depression in the center of the button to hold a candle, then I think you have to look elsewhere.  JMHO.  :wink:

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 12:01:12 PM »
Quote from: "grayhorse"
That was the style that I was thinking about.  The color is called Golden Banana.

Very apt! :D

Not sure what you mean by the "inside button", but the side view shows the profile of the glass reasonably well. I suppose it could hold a candle with a very broad base, but it would be self-supporting.
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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 12:02:42 PM »
David from the side view it does look as if there is a 'button' sticking up inside but it is obviouly the depression from underneath.
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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 12:10:24 PM »
Ah, it's surprising how it can be perceived differently! 8)

I've posted a direct, side-on view:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3829
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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 12:25:42 PM »
To me it looks like the depression underneath projects up into the center of the bowl.  This perceived projection I was terming a "button" for lack of a better term.  I was inquiring whether the center of the projection had a depressed area which would hold a candle. Think of one of those thick walled coasters sitting in the middle  :lol:

I have a set of Viking Epic holders which would illustrate what I mean but wouldn't you know I just deleted them from my site in preparation of taking them to the local auction  :roll:

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2006, 12:28:46 PM »
It so happens, Connie, that you could turn it upside down and use the 'button' (good enough as any description!) as a candleholder :P

Thanks anyway, I'll see if anyone else can help. Might be moving into Ivo country...
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