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Author Topic: Carnival Footed Bowl with Cherries - ID = Dugan-Diamond Weeping Cherries  (Read 5664 times)

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Offline josordoni

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2006, 08:57:18 AM »
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Yes Lynne, there's a difference. There are many different kinds of pressed glass features that result in small marks.

More later ......

Glen


Sorry, didn't expect you to answer until later - go on - off you go - back to work....
Thank you very much!

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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2006, 04:07:32 PM »
Robbo - you asked is Weeping Cherry usually seen with Western Daisy? I have only handled a few of these bowls over the years (they are scarce) and all those I have seen have had both patterns. However, Carl Burns (Dugan researcher) has shown Western Daisy exterior bowls with no interior design. Conversely, I believe that Weeping Cherry is also known with no exterior pattern.

Now to the question of shear marks and the like. Robbo, you mentioned that the marks on your bowl might be straw marks or stress marks. The two are caused by different things.

SHEAR MARK
A shear mark/straw mark is not damage. It is a feature of pressed glass and is more correctly called a shear mark. The link I gave earlier explains how they are caused. Shear marks can be found on all kinds of pressed glass, not just Carnival, but the iridescence can cause them to be more visible, especially when they coincide with a non-patterned part of the glass.

STRESS MARK
Stress marks are different - they are classed as damage, and are in fact, cracks, fractures in the glass.

There are many other marks that are simply features of pressed glass, often caused by the glass cooling slightly as it comes into contact with the mould.

Sometimes the iridescence has little marks and crizzles. If any re-heating is done after the iridescence is applied, the iridescence will show a "stretch" effect. Sometimes, also, I have noticed small lines in the iridescence which I suspect is caused by a temperature change somewhere in the process.

I hope this goes some way to giving you an answer.

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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2006, 07:21:06 PM »
robbo
Here is a link to a piece of Carnival glass with marks and crizzles which Glen discribes

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3869

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2006, 09:58:03 PM »
Glen - thanks again for your response and clarifying the straw/shear and stress marks issue. I think the marks on the bowl could be the mould cooling type you mention - they are generally little 'furrows' in the surface, which seem to occur around some parts of the outline of the pattern. I'll have to clean the dirt out of them! :)

Tony - good to see an example of the iridescence stretch marks - I'm now clearer on how that looks too  :D

Many thanks,

robbo
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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2006, 10:13:38 PM »
For an extra look at stretch iridescence on Carnival.......

http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Celeste.html

Glen
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