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Offline Frank

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ID help for a Blue vase- Hand holding Torch of Liberty -
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2006, 10:08:38 PM »
S of L was based on the Roman Goddess Libertas, so not wildly original. But the period was one where there was always interest in the ancient world and modern interpretaions of it abound. That the interpretations might have been loose, is also not uncommon as each designer injected their own ideas to make it unique. As each item was brought to attention so the public interest would generate the souvenir replica's. Cleopatra's Needle is another example. The connection to the glass design is one I have heard often in Europe so it has the ring of truth more than speculation... but I do not know of any documentary support. Yet there should be something.

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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2006, 01:25:25 AM »
I have only seen one type of hand vase, in fact it is more likely a toothpick holder, made in pressed glass, that remotely looks like the S. of L.
I do not have one in my collection but it is pictured in the book "Victorian Glass Novelties" by Jo & Bob Sandford. It actually looks like a hand holding a flaming torch.
Hand objects were very popular in Victorian times, & many variations on the theme were made. In porcelain, there were hands holding seashells, sheaves of wheat, pineapples, (a Minton design) fans, & so forth.
Worcester made a well-known hand vase known as "Mrs. Hadley's hand" designed by James Hadley, supposedly modelled after his wife's hand.
There were many brooches featuring hands holding bouquets or fans, & rings made in the form of clasped hands.
Brass letter clips were made in the form of a lady's hand, also.
In glass, the trumpet or cornucopia shape vase tends to be the predominate design, but there are also hands holding bottles, fans,(used for pin dishes & toothpick holders), cups, & sheaves of wheat.
There are also glass bottles or decanters shaped like hands holding guns & daggers. These are either marked either "Depose" or "Geschutzt"- patented.
I believe that there may have been some items directly inspired by the S. of L. but the design is too widespread for all hand items to be directly related to it. The hand, nearly always an elegantly lady-like one, featuring a lacy cuff, was a typical Victorian motif, a throwback to Classical symbolism updated to suit the fashions of the day. It has sentimental allusions, which fit in perfectly with the Victorian sensiblity.
I have even seen a Victorian wax severed hand under a dome, accompanying a typical display of wax fruit & flowers!
Following is a photo of part of my collection of hand vases. There are vases from the Victorian era to recent (1990s) ones by Fenton.
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ID help for a Blue vase- Hand holding Torch of Liberty -
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2006, 01:50:08 AM »
Here is a photo of part of my hand vase collection.


There are mostly Victorian ones here, with a few recent Fenton ones, a few Jain carnival ones & a few other ones I believe to be 20th C. reworkings of Victorian moulds.
Top shelf centre is one of the hand holding a gun bottles.
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Re: ID help for a Blue vase- Hand holding Torch of Liberty -
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2006, 11:10:50 PM »
Wow! That photo is the ultimate reply!

Thanks everyone, for your help.

What with my own dislike of the thing and the likely background now provided...it has now got a 'low,low' price on it and I hope it will be leaving me shortly!
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Re: ID help for a Blue vase- Hand holding Torch of Liberty -
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2006, 11:16:48 PM »
Top shelf centre is one of the hand holding a gun bottles.

Definitely not the Statue if Liberty... but was there not a legend about a gunslinger called Liberty (Very Café, I know)

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Re: ID help for a Blue vase- Hand holding Torch of Liberty -
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2006, 12:12:45 AM »
Wow! heartofglass,

That is some collection of those hand-vases, nice job! --- Mike

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Re: ID help for a Blue vase- Hand holding Torch of Liberty -
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2006, 04:05:55 AM »
Hi Mike,
glad you enjoyed the pic! :)
And this isn't all of them either! ;D
B.T.W it's good to be back, I couldn't access the board for around a week.....having withdrawal symptoms. :(
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