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Offline bigdog

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Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« on: December 18, 2006, 01:12:33 PM »
Got a strange vase here.  It is 7 1/2" tall and has slightly pinched sides.  It is more a cranberry color than in the pictures.  It has a ground and polished base.  The coloring in the edge looks like it is in the glass because you can see it under the onion skin.  Any ideas?
Thanks Bryan
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Re: Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2006, 03:49:02 PM »
Hello,

I wouldn't call it Stretch-Glass, since that name\term was never used by the glass makers when it was made, but made up by dealers\collectors to describe glassware with a certain finish, from a certain era. The finishing process was also used on glass from different eras, and those do not fit into the Stretch-Glass era\category, even though the finishing work may have been done the same way. Your piece looks like it may be from the Imperial Glass Company's "Art Glass Line" They also made their share of Stretch-Glass, but their Art Glass line was a separate project.

This link will show some of it, (not all) and your vase may have been shaped from one of the blanks they used to make other styles.

http://www.shetlarglass.com/stretchglass/SGCompanies/Imperial/IMPArtGlass/IMAG3.htm

Here is the main link where you can check out the Stretch-Glass made by the other makers as well as some not Stretch-Glass lines they did.

http://www.shetlarglass.com/stretchglass/SGCompanies/SGID.htm

Often using the same glass molds to make the different lines. --- Mike


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Re: Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2006, 07:02:11 PM »
It can quite rightly be called stretch glass.

From the same site mentioned above:
http://www.shetlarglass.com/stretchglass/SGCompanies/Imperial/Imperial2.htm

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"Imperial Art Glass" is, without a doubt, the most elegant of the stretch glass lines, not only because of its base colors or shapes, but because of the richness of its stretch effect. This line was introduced in 1916 by Imperial and represents the highest standards by which all stretch glass is compared.

There are several categories of glass today that are known by a different name\term other than the one used by the glass makers when it was made - Depression Glass is the most obvious.


Offline butchiedog

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Re: Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2006, 10:05:48 PM »
Yes;  True, but...

There is a part of the same site, which is having some work done on it, so it is not available at the moment. On that part of the site they say that Stretch glass is not considered art glass, so as usual;  contradiction is the price for using made up names and terms, especially long after the factual names and terms are well known and could easily be used instead. I assume that research etc., is supposed to improve the quality of the knowledge gained, rather than keep it stagnant or degrade it.

Here is another site which makes the same statement about Stretch Glass.

http://www.justglass-online.com/gcd53.html

I suppose for selling purposes anything goes sometimes, but I'm only a collector, so I prefer to keep the history of glass selling information out of my glass making history information, which is the reason I brought the topic up. --- Mike


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Re: Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2006, 08:31:04 AM »
I can understand the confusion as the techniques used for making stretch glass - which is a US term for treated pressed glass - are not exclusive to stretch glass. This "Tin crackle" technique was used by many glas makers in the 1920s and 30s. Famous examples are WMF Myra (not all pieces) and Leerdam Serica by Copier - none of which count as stretch glass.
So what colour comes through the red vase if you hold it to the light? If the answer is "golden amber" you may have a piece of red Myra. If the answer is "red" then I give up.
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Re: Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2006, 05:41:17 PM »
When held up to the light this piece isd almost opaque.

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Re: Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2006, 07:16:32 PM »
I give up...
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Re: Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007, 07:51:54 PM »
Check out Fenton's Red stretch under completeds on eBay & I think you will find a close match. These are frequently palmed off as vintage, but the pontil is a dead give-a-way.  Ken

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Re: Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2007, 09:13:35 PM »
I've come across a few of these over the years...I think they're Czech, probably from the 30's....here's a link to the one I sold a few months ago...

http://www.glasshound.com/art_nouveau_vase_266.html

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Re: Anyone recognize this red stretch glass vase with unusual edge?
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 12:32:48 AM »
Here is the best way for a stretch ID. This is Dave Shetlar's contact, however please follow the instructions & cantact him first with a description...in your case I would suggest "red stretch vase, visable gold veined throat, polished pontil". Dave can probably ID it without even seeing it since it's red stretch. In the early 90's AA imports out of St. Louis was selling repro red out of their catalog that had the gold toned throat, but Fenton did a batch also. Just give Dave a shot.  Ken

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