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Offline romy

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Ebony & Gold SS005
« on: January 01, 2007, 04:27:31 PM »
Hi everyone, :)

I think I have an Ebony & Gold SS005 vase (identified via Frank's excellent website, and Miller's 20th Century Glass). It looks absolutely identical (which is why I haven't posted a photo) but I wonder if it might be a fake? Or even a reject? I ask, because it has no signature whatsoever, and isn't what I'd call a perfectly-made piece of glass (a bit rough and ready at the neck). This is the first piece of Ebony & Gold I've seen in the flesh, so this might be quite normal, of course. All replies gratefully received, even those confirming my worst fears - I only paid £6 for it, and it's very attractive, so I won't be hanging myself from the nearest tree!


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Re: Ebony & Gold SS005
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2007, 04:58:53 PM »
Hi,

The signatures were sand-blasted and can be very faint but some inevitably slipped through blank too. No idea what Stuart policy regarding seconds though, possibly out via staff or a factory shop?



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Re: Ebony & Gold SS005
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2007, 10:11:26 PM »
Thanks for your reply, Frank. :)

Good news re. lack of signature, but not sure on the 'manufacturing flaws' (if that's what they are). Are you saying that the piece should be completely smooth, from base to top? Mine has what I can only call elongated vertical dents around the neck, as well as a couple of 'lumpy bits'. (Sorry to be so untechnical!) Is that normal?


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Re: Ebony & Gold SS005
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2007, 12:02:49 PM »
Yes smooth, top edge is cut and polished.
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Re: Ebony & Gold SS005
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2007, 12:04:59 AM »
Thanks, Frank. :'(


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Re: Ebony & Gold SS005
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2007, 03:46:05 PM »
Hi Romy,
I have owned and sold a number of these SS005 pieces over the last few years, some with etched Stuart marks some without. The signed vases seemed to be a bit more substantial, possibly a little heavier and more randomly gilded  than those that had no etched mark. I currently have 2 of these unmarked randomly gilded pieces, identical in shape and size to SS005 but strangely 1 vase is not black but is purple. There must be other glass companies making vases in this design. I have only found this variation in the SS005 pattern. Very confusing.


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Re: Ebony & Gold SS005
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2007, 03:48:59 PM »
Oops sorry Romy forgot to add my name. ::) ???
It's Bryn (not Brian)


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Re: Ebony & Gold SS005
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2007, 04:10:29 PM »
Might be worth checking if IOW made these too.

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Re: Ebony & Gold SS005
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2007, 01:38:24 AM »
Hi all! :) Thanks for such a great response! :-*

IOW have similar looking vases (at least, I think they're IOW), but they have gold leaf applied to the surface (the Azurene range...?). Mine is definitely identical to the SS005 on Frank's website and in Millers. Bryn, it's interesting what you say re. weight; it's a lot lighter than I was expecting. (Not that I have anything to compare it with!) Can I ask, did your unsigned ones have marks around the neck? They're really bothering me. Millers reckons these vases are worth around £30, but I don't think the quality of mine is right. I'll try and take some decent photos tomorrow, so you'll hopefully have a clearer idea of what I'm talking about.


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Re: Ebony & Gold SS005
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2007, 03:48:00 PM »
Some photos, as promised. Hope they help, especially as it's taken me half the day to work out how to use the Glass Gallery! :-[ First two are general shots of the piece; the last two show the marks I'm fretting about.

wrong link from browser address bar: http ://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?album=10&pos=0
correct link from info below image on gallery, note the 4 digit number:    http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4456

others corrected too

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4457

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4458

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4459

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4460

 

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