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Offline lyndhurst44

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Edit: Royo Candle Holder Was: Moser Mystery
« on: January 05, 2007, 09:55:06 PM »
Hi,
I have recently purchased a Moser Enamelled and signed Candle Holder or Chamberstick. No problem with identification because it is signed ROYO which suggests , as I have discovered from various reputable websites that it was made by Moser for the Spanish market. However, I have purchased and seen a number of Royo signed pieces during my collecting hobby I have never before seen a chamberstick. Furthermore this chambersick has peculiarities. Whilst the piece itself seems to be perfect right down to no loss of gilding, enamel or anything else there are 4 spots on the base around the candle "hole" which have small areas  where there seems to be flake damage. The damage is equally placed in 4 small areas surrounding the hole like at the proximities of a plus sign +, although one flake is a bit larger than the other 3. My question is to someone who would know something about these pieces and that is would this piece have originally had some kind of base, or are these marks actually some kind  kind of pontil  mark. I have tried to dowload photo's on Yobunny but failed, so here goes with Tinypic.
http://i12.tinypic.com/2rc7ihh.jpg
http://i12.tinypic.com/4480pdk.jpg 
http://i16.tinypic.com/42n8ivt.jpg
http://i13.tinypic.com/4cmy2kh.jpg
Any advice would be welcome.
Cheers,
Bryn (not Brian)


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Re: Moser Mystery
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2007, 09:58:02 PM »
Royo is Spanish glass, when our search is working you can find all of the related discussion. Definitely NOT Moser but the actual maker still eludes. It appears to be still being made but it very expensive.
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Re: Moser Mystery
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2007, 10:00:00 PM »
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Re: Moser Mystery
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2007, 10:25:14 PM »
The colour of your candlestick is IMO the more unusual one, rather than the blue.  What are your other pieces like?  Some of them are really beautiful.  :)
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Re: Moser Mystery
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2007, 11:53:46 PM »
Yes is'n't it confusing. I saw my first Royo piece listed under Moser on the Great-Glass site. I have always given this site much credance. Was I wrong Frank?
The other pieces I have had have been sold, sorry, Max.
This is one that I sold in November on Ebay. I really liked this one, there was a similar example on the Great-Glass site.
http://i13.tinypic.com/4bnvptw.jpg
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Re: Moser Mystery
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2007, 12:12:38 AM »
Thanks for the photo Bryn, after I posted, I thought there might be green too.  I don't think I've ever seen any other colours than the amber, blue and green so far...


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Re: Moser Mystery
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2007, 01:07:41 AM »
Another Royo thread has:
Like Lenore's, my vase has been held on a four-part "gadget" (which is just a form of punty iron that makes it easier to hold and work larger items) and consequently there are four "cracked-off" marks beneath the foot.
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Re: Moser Mystery
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2007, 02:09:54 AM »
I have added photos of my vase and the foot base to my Yobunny album:

The vase, 13 inch high:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4479

The "gadget marked" base of foot (four uneven, clear glass "chunks"):
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4478
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Re: Moser Mystery
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2007, 04:46:47 PM »
Hi KevH,
Thanks a bunch for that.  I'm much happier about it now.
I thought that those marks were just too evenly spaced to have been done by accident. But you just never know.
Sorry for the delay in replying, I've been out glass hunting in the never ending rain. Picked up a nice bit of Orrefors though, but that's another story ;D.
Much obliged,

Bryn (not Brian)

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Re: Moser Mystery
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2007, 04:12:52 AM »
These pieces marked 'Royo' or 'Cire' were NEVER made by Moser and NEVER will be  ::). They were made in Spain during the last 20 years or so..Gary Baldwin made the fatal mistake of attributing these to Moser in his two books...Unfortunately, this myth continues to perpetuate..Great for Sellers but no so great for Buyers that think these pieces were truly made by Moser..

my two and half cents..  ;D

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