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Debra's Mäander + Rosentau plate
« on: January 06, 2007, 07:46:51 PM »
I was contacted by Debra from Alabama regarding an Mäander+Rosentau plate possibly from Germany. I do not think it is a Streit pattern. Today
Debra informed me that it is carnival, so this may be Brockwitz?
I have posted all I have to Anne and Glen and sincerely hope they will be of service as always  ;D
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Re: Debra's Mäander + Rosentau plate
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2007, 10:02:46 PM »
Hi Pamela,
So this mäander and rosettenband item is not a Streit "Berlin" pattern item? It looks very similar to item number 21, from that range in the 1913 catalogue, though Debra does not indicate a size, which would have been either 130mm or 160mm.
Additionally the current images, arguably, do not show an iridised piece.
I can neither confirm or add anything further, not ever having seen the internal base decoration before.
Regards,
Marcus


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Re: Debra's Mäander + Rosentau plate
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2007, 03:02:22 PM »
Thank you Anne, you are really a star!

I had also asked Glen directly before the photos appeared here and she was so kind to answer (thanks also to you, Glen!) Debra that she does not believe it is Carnival which Debra meanwhile confirmed, the plate is simply a golden yellow. (Must have been my screen that made it look iridized  :-X )

Pattern and shape: Glen also confirms my opinion that Brockwitz made this Greek Key and Flower pattern, it appeared in the 1915 catalogue, however not in this square shape.

Marcus, the Streit bowls and plates are octagonal, round or oval - I am unable to find a square one. You get an idea of the size of Debra's plate from the photo in which she is holding it in hand.

Regarding the base: Debra's plate shows four straight rows of four flowers each, no mark (otherwise it wouldn't be here  ;D )

Streit's base bears rows of 3/5/5/5/3 flowers, some of them cut off at the outer rim, and mostly is marked in the centre (instead of flower):

http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/03598.html round plate
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/05256.html octagonal dish

http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/schalen/04775.html large bread dish with additional design on the rim

Finally I like you to compare the rim: Debra's is a band of flowers, Streit's is smooth and curved

I have of course invited Debra to join us here  :) She thanks you all very much for your interest!





 
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Re: Debra's Mäander + Rosentau plate
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2007, 05:40:59 AM »
Hi Pamela,
Thanks for the clarification.
Whilst I know a little regarding Czech glass, my education in other areas, is on-going.....
Regards,
Marcus


 

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