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Offline a40ty

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Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« on: January 12, 2007, 03:17:55 PM »


Good afternoon. I know zero about paperweights and only own one.. this one  ;)
I inherited it from my grandmother who died about 40 years ago. How long she had it in her possession I don't know. Is it possible to date a paperweight like this?
It is 7½ cms in diamter, 5 cms in height and the bottom has been ground.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4535



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Re: Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2007, 01:25:56 AM »
That is a very pretty example of what's called a scramble or end of day weight. It's from Murano. The canes look like Fratelli Toso to me. I'm not so good with dates but I think it may be from the 50's.
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Re: Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2007, 06:18:55 AM »
Here is another one to compare it to:
http://www.glassmessages.com/perthshirepp.jpg
and the label on its base
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Are you sure yours is so old?
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Re: Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2007, 07:24:02 AM »
Hi Glasstruffelhunter and Angela B, Thank you both!

"End of Day", what a lovely phrase; makes me think of misty valleys but it is more likely to be what we call "fusk" in Denmark. Work that was done after the days production. Am I right?

Angela B, I'm pretty sure it is that old, but I'll check with my Mum when she is up and running. The paperweight you posted is certainly similar but the clear glass surround on mine is much thicker, so that the coloured part doesn't begin to  approach the surface.

(Small world.. my sister-in-law is from Crieff)


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Re: Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2007, 11:03:12 AM »
The canes in your (a40ty) weight are certainly not Scottish.
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Re: Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2007, 03:39:03 PM »
The two weights shown are a good example of the same type - with a scramble of canes set very close to, and all over, the surface - being produced by several makers and over many years.

These are not (in my view) "end of day" weights. The Perthshire examples were regular production pieces. And I regard the Murano ones as also "daily production" (gift / tourist items).

a40ty's weight is definitely Murano and I agree that Fratelli Toso is a possibility for the company that made it. That type of weight is known from Murano from the early 20th century to now/

I have known a couple of the very large versions (4+ inch diameter and set on a metal stand) to be offered as "early 19th century Bigaglia" / "mid 18th century Clichy" ::)
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Re: Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2007, 08:25:36 PM »
Perthshire made their millefiori marble in red? *drools*

My first Perthshire was a millefiori marble (that's what the dealer called it) on a black ground. Since then I have seen them on blue but never red before now. I would love to get my hands on one.
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Re: Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2007, 09:02:56 PM »
In my reply above, I did, of course, mean "mid 19th century Clichy", not "18th".
And the size of those Murano weights on stands is more like 5 to 6 inch than "4+".

Doh! :-X
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Re: Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 09:49:18 AM »
Good morning again; my Mum tells me that my grandmother bought it in an antique shop at the start of the fifties. (could just as easily be a secondhand shop..)
KevH, thank you for the info but I am curious about something.. you say "scramble of canes set close to, and all over the surface", these seem to be a long way from the surface. Or have I misunderstood?

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4567

In any case, thank you all for taking the time :)


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Re: Millefiori? Warning...novice!
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2007, 10:20:43 AM »
Could you add a profile view please.
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