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Green Dragon & Lotus pattern footed bowl (Carnival)
« on: January 24, 2007, 02:07:25 PM »
Hubby saw a green dragon & lotus patterned bowl in a chariddy shop today priced up at £17.  He was tempted to buy it but because we know zero, zilch, de nada about Carnival glass he didn't but we're thinking of taking a chance and going back for it.  What should we look out for other than damage - were these faked much?  ???  The base wasn't lustred/irridescent - just plain green glass to the base - I think that's right isn't it?  gosh - confused... help!

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Re: Green Dragon & Lotus pattern footed bowl (Carnival)
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2007, 02:48:41 PM »
Possibly by Fenton.
Have a gander at ebay.com several pieces on at the moment.
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Re: Green Dragon & Lotus pattern footed bowl (Carnival)
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2007, 03:17:45 PM »
No "possibly" about it....undoubtedly by Fenton. The pattern has not been reproduced or faked (to the best of my knowledge).

You need to check for damage, as you said, Pip. That is the most important thing - plus the quality of the iridescence. You said the base isn't lustred. I am not totally sure of what you mean. Are you saying that when you turn it over and look at the underside, then that part has no iridescence? If so, then that's fine.

The base glass is just plain green glass. The iridescence is sprayed on to the hot glass, thus giving the "Carnival" effect. A good piece will be iridised all over the main part (top) of the item. If it is patchy and worn with bits missing, then don't get it.

So, no chips, dings, cracks or missing iridescence? Then it should be OK.

Green D&Ls are nice items, and oddly do seem to turn up more in the UK than in the USA (pro rata that is).

You can see some opalescent D&Ls here - they are very sought after. If you ever see one of those, get it!

http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/fenton_opal.html

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Re: Green Dragon & Lotus pattern footed bowl (Carnival)
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2007, 06:14:49 PM »
Hi Glen,
I only put possibly, as iridised glass is not my area of expertise, and I did not know if anyone else had produced it.
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Re: Green Dragon & Lotus pattern footed bowl (Carnival)
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2007, 06:36:49 PM »
Hi Marcus - I wasn't cracking the whip  :) Just backing you up and emphasising that you were right on the nail (it's the old written word thing again, instead of hearing me saying it).

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EDITED TO ADD... and mea culpa for not making it clear enough that I was just backing you up.  :-[
so sorry

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Re: Green Dragon & Lotus pattern footed bowl (Carnival)
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2007, 07:30:56 PM »
Thank you BOTH  ;D  Hubby decided to go and get it anyway before we had the benefit of your replies but I'm much relieved to read the information given.  We see quite a lot of Carnival glass out and about and decided it would be a good thing for us to learn a little about it.  This wasn't a huge outlay so even if it turns out to be utter rubbish we've not wasted too much money.

If you care to take a look I'll post some photos of it in a min (just got to take my daughter to bed) - thanks again Glen & Marcus for answering - brb with piccies....

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Re: Green Dragon & Lotus pattern footed bowl (Carnival)
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2007, 10:03:41 PM »
here it is (piccies taken very hurriedly in the kitchen - apologies for the quality)...

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/pips-trip/IMG_6799.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g60/pips-trip/IMG_6809.jpg

There's no damage or missing irridescence that I can see ...

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Re: Green Dragon & Lotus pattern footed bowl (Carnival)
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2007, 09:11:18 AM »
It's a lovely example, Pip - a spatula footed, ruffled bowl. A real bargain. Congrats, and many thanks for showing us the photos too.

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Re: Green Dragon & Lotus pattern footed bowl (Carnival)
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2007, 11:06:22 AM »
NP, thank you so much for you help - this is our first bit of CG so it's been a very useful exercise to get a feel for it.  I must admit that although this isn't our usual area it's a highly decorative piece and I'm beginning to appreciate why so many people collect it.  I'll ensure that you and your website Glen, and the GMB get an acknowledgment when I list it for sale (OH won't let me start collections of anything - he knows I get totally out of control!).  I had a huge art deco pottery collection when we first met and it took him 15 years to get me to part with it  ::)

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