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Author Topic: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper  (Read 1297 times)

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Offline catshome

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Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« on: February 05, 2007, 08:44:31 PM »
Hi,

I put this on the Whitefriars board as I wondered if it might be William Wilson.  Thought I'd also put it here in case anyone has any other thoughts........

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/smallerDSCN0675.jpg

polished pontil :

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/smallerDSCN0676.jpg

It has 4 dimples at the base of the body - it was this detail that made me buy it as I haven't seen it before.

Thank you
Cat

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Re: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2007, 02:30:25 PM »
I managed to get this piece clean and dry, and have a better picture now :

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10086/smallerDSCN0772.jpg

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Cat


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Re: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2007, 02:59:51 PM »
I would think Empoli.... but cannot prove it.

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Re: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2007, 05:27:15 PM »
Hiya Cat,

For what its worth, I have a clear decanter with this form (not the dimples) which is marked Daum. I have also seen another, only decorated with horizontal banding, also marked Daum.

I am not suggesting yours is from that factory, just noting the similarity. A continental form, maybe?

To be honest, had I found your decanter, neither Powell, nor Whitefriars, would have been my first, or even second thought.

Let's see what other folks think.

Nigel

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Re: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2007, 09:09:37 PM »
Hi Nigel,

It wouldn't have been mine either, but I was looking at their section on decanters (for one like my friend has) and the 5th one down on this list looked similar to this (apart from the stopper shape).  Unfortunately, when you click on the picture the wrong thing comes up so I couldn't get a closer look.  But they mention William Wilson as a possibility and I don't know anything about him either.

http://www.whitefriars.com/decanters.php?pageNum_Recordset1=1&totalRows_Recordset1=22

It does have a nice feel about it - not "rubbish" - but it could turn out to be a greek recycled glass decanter the way things go sometimes!

Thanks for looking
Cat

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Re: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2007, 10:40:50 AM »
Hello again Cat,

I've just gone through the whole link to the decanters on Whitefriars.com and found nothing that truely resembles your friend's decanter. When you enlarge all the pics they have, even though there are some mistakes, all the decanters get to be enlarged at some point. A few of the pics are a bit blurred, but if you're lucky enough to know the item there's nothing close there.

I thought I'd do the exercise in case I was missing some information about WF decanters, however there's nothing that isn't available elsewhere, which means that I can say with reasonable confidence "not Whitefriars".

On the positive side though, I seriously doubt that it will turn out to be some form of re-cycled glass :)

Give a bit of time, maybe someone out there, who knows, hasn't dropped in yet.

Nigel

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Re: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2007, 11:52:37 AM »
Hi Nigel,

I didn't think of opening them all - I did try opening the one whose picture appeared when I tried opening the one I wanted to see (thinking they might just be round the wrong way).  Seeing them close makes a big difference.

I might have confused you.  This is mine, and my first thought wouldn't have been WF, but the one I was looking for I am almost sure I saw on the WF site - a small conical hooped/banded decanter with round flattened stopper in flint.  I will go through the catalogues again some time - it's not urgent as I don't expect my Friend would sell it!

Thanks again
Cat

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Re: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2007, 11:55:45 AM »
Hi Cat, in one of my book's it states that your decanter was an origional design by Harry Powell, it was so popular that Walsh Birmingham, Webb's and Webb Corbett made their own variations.

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Re: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2007, 01:46:24 PM »
Dexter - is your book the "Whitefriars Glass: Art of James Powell & Sons"?  If so, I have that on order and will be able to see it in the flesh so to speak.  Thanks Cat

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Re: Pale Green Decanter 12" with hollow stopper
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2007, 02:02:13 PM »
Hi Cat, no it was in Millers glass buyers guide.

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