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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2012, 06:07:56 PM »


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2012, 01:19:56 AM »
Those of yours are exactly like my amber ones, Christine, but mine aren't marked at all.


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2012, 04:18:08 PM »
Thanks Nigel you have confirmed my thoughts , i nearly said suspicions . ??? I have not looked at this thread for quite some time  , my comment is a tad out of sync .  Look to the future  :-X JP

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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #33 on: July 30, 2012, 11:49:06 AM »
4 Blue tumblers = between 132g and 168g each
4 Amber tumblers = between 174g and 212g each

Both sets of glasses are definitely hand-made.

Holding them side by side (I'll post a photo when my camera has charged up), the amber glasses are nicer - smoother, more regular shape and better-made. No flaws whatsoever, while the blue glasses have a couple of irregularities in the surface, as if they've been touched with a tool whilst still malleable, and one of the rims is slightly wonky.

The amber glasses all have a circular, ground punty.  The blue glasses have had their bases torched.  Three of them have a smooth, slightly-indented base, whilst one has been left flat with a dimpled finish.

amber glasses = definitely Stuart
blue glasses = Norfolk Enchants


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2012, 12:00:06 PM »
Thinking of the Dema advert, I don't suppose there's any chance that they bought and resold glass from other manufacturers?  I seem to find many unmarked pieces attributed to Stuart and Webb, yet read in books that those two marked almost everything that they made. 

I've read a proposition that high-class retailers preferred to sell unmarked glass, but that surely can't account for the proportion of unmarked Stuart and Webb glass that I come across virtually every day?


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2012, 12:39:41 PM »
Marked often means labelled, not necessarily marking on the glass


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #36 on: July 30, 2012, 02:28:47 PM »
Ah yes, the little green Stuart labels...


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #37 on: July 30, 2012, 03:07:16 PM »
Thanks for the weights, Chris. Yours are lighter than my amber ones. Perhaps Christine might weigh her marked ones if she has them still?

Re the bases, it's interesting that two of mine have large polished pontil marks (226g and 244g) and the other two have flat (torched?) bottoms with striations (234g and 255g). None are marked. In fact very little of my Stuart is marked in any way. Labels may of course have been removed.


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Re: Stuart 681307 tumblers and lookalikes
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2012, 04:51:51 PM »
Here's the photo comparison (a bit late, I know...)


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Re: Stuart 681307 tumblers and lookalikes
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2012, 05:33:58 PM »
You must have picked up my thoughts Chris! I was just thinking we could do with seeing yours side by side, and the same with my amber and the clear ones, and here they are!

Side views
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