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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2007, 12:53:02 AM »
Nigel, thank you again. That explains very succinctly what wasn't clear from the pages I looked at. I had indeed made the assumption that all the glass was Nazeing rather than it being a collection including Nazeing.  :-\


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2007, 01:37:47 PM »
My fault, it was a case of getting the pictures out and organising proper captions later... I will add in anyones thoughts as they come but please keep all feedback in the butter dishes thread here http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,9344.msg79238.html#msg79238
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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2007, 06:40:39 PM »
There is one large blue base ribbed bowl in the Elwell haul. Definitely not Nazeing. the quality of our glass was not good until the mid 1950's. We had coke fired skittle pots, lots of contamination, and bubble hence the pastel shades, seed, bubble in the glass which looked intentional. It was not until we employed Ken Northwood and Pip Lang as glass technologists around 1948 ( we have a company photo showing them) that the quality improved. We then invented the single pot furnaces (holding 3/4 ton approx 700kgs) just enough to use in a day and melt overnight. This gave us a major technical advantage over the traditional multi pot furnces in terms of flexibility and fuel savings as well the cash flow to expand and contract one furnace at a time! 


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2007, 05:21:51 PM »
Hello again,

I have been able to find the catalogue reference that I mentioned above. Chris's glasses in this thread and Anne's bowl both appear to be from Stuart & Sons, marketed as "Plain Ringed Goods" and both from the service 21696.

I say 'appear', since it says at the top of the page "in FLINT, GREEN or GOLD". This is from Catalogue 51, which is annotated, in my copy, as being from 1939. It doesn't mean that other colours weren't introduced of course.

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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2007, 07:59:35 PM »
Nigel, thank you so much for checking for us. It's very much appreciated. :)


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2007, 09:23:23 PM »
The ringed base looks very similar to the Stratford pattern pictured in McConnell's C20th Glass (p240) - designed in 1921 and later used for enamelled designs (1928-38).

According to this article, the Stratford pattern was particularly suited to enamelware because the rings gave the shape enough strength in the base to withstand a second firing without wilting:

http://www.manddmoir.co.uk/phdi/p1.nsf/supppages/moir?opendocument&part=13 (scroll down to bottom of page)

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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2007, 04:32:42 PM »
Yes, indeed.  Many thanks, Nigel.
Kind of you to take the trouble...


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2007, 10:40:35 AM »
I just bought an auction box containing a Stuart 21696 jug in green and four matching glasses in amber.  These have a ground and polished punty, and are slightly different in height and weight from the blue glasses that started this thread. 

Although they show striations and aren't obviously machine made (no nub on the rim, etc), the blue glasses would seem to match a Dema ad from 1951.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-6577


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2007, 10:43:56 PM »
Chris, I just checked your blue glasses photo against the DEMA advert and although they are very close, the bases look different on the blue ones. They look as if they are slightly wider/thicker than the DEMA ones, or is that just a trick of the camera?

Can we see a photo of the 21696 jug and tumblers too please?  ;)


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Re: Gorgeous blue drinking glasses - ID please
« Reply #19 on: June 06, 2007, 09:56:18 PM »
Hi Anne

Here's the green jug
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7358

and an amber tumbler, along with a (stained) flint trumpet vase from the same period.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-7357

The tumbler is much thicker, heavier and nicer than the blue glasses that started off this thread.

I'm putting up a few additional Sherdley items in my gallery if you are interested...
Cheers,
Chris

 

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