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Re: How are double overlay weights made?
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2007, 08:04:42 PM »
Glass section would be the place for the drinking glass, please Karel. :)

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Double overlay id help needed
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2007, 02:52:34 PM »
Hi all,
This is the weight that prompted my question about how these weights are made:
top view: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5326
side view: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5325
The weight is light blue overlayed on white. It is about 7cm by 7cm and has 5+1 facets.  The base is polished smooth and has a facet (as I presume all duble overlays have on the base?).
From the pictures you can clearly see the cane that fell over during the making of the weight (12 o'clock 3rd ring).
Also, as mentioned elsewhere, the mushroom is floating (terms correct  ???) and does not have a pulled stem.
I obviously could not find a makers mark or date or signature cane.
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Re: How are double overlay weights made?
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2007, 05:11:44 PM »
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mushroom is floating (terms correct ???)
The term is as correct as any other - unless somebody knows what the Murano makers called it. In the exhibition of weights at the recent UK Cambridge Glass Fair, a similar weight was shown (with green over white overlay) and the description was "floating umbrella".

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base is polished smooth and has a facet (as I presume all duble overlays have on the base?).
Yes, because the base will not have any overlay, there will always be a clear section, and if this is not finished with polishing, (and perhaps with added cross-cutting or a star-cut), the "cracking off" will show through the weight via the facets.
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Re: How are double overlay weights made?
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2007, 05:33:21 PM »
Hi,
It seems that you are saying that this might be a Murano weight...at least that gives me a clue.
Also as to the base, I have seen the term "strawberry cut"?? in print, not related to this weight but apparently other double overlays?? 
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Re: How are double overlay weights made?
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2007, 07:51:32 PM »
Strawberry cut is not limited to double overlays. It's a fine cut 'crosshatching' on the base. It's also called 'diamond cut'.
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Re: How are double overlay weights made?
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2007, 11:59:12 PM »
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... you are saying that this might be a Murano weight
Not "might be" ... it is Murano. There are many like it, in various colours. These occasionally appear on eBay and also in dealer websites. Some are very good and others have a flaw or two, such as the slipped cane in your example. Also, in these patterns without a stem, the canes are easily seen as 'quite long' and of different lengths, showing as an uneven edge, and this is very typical of many Murano millefiori weights. Where a stem is used, for a true "mushroom" design, the canes are of course drawn down and therefore look tidy, but often in the Murano ones, the stem is a bit thin and can be slightly bent instead of perfectly upright. Unfortunately I have not found out which Murano company (or companies) make these.
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Re: How are double overlay weights made?
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2007, 01:58:16 AM »
I saw one on Ebay a while ago that had Fratelli Toso canes in it. It had 'Baccarat' etched on the bottom. The seller had a bunch of Fratelli Toso scratched marked as various makers including St. Louis. The irony was that he would have gotten a lot of bids on them anyway if he had them properly identified as Toso.
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Re: How are double overlay weights made?
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2007, 09:19:01 AM »
Thanks KevH, that solves that mystery  ;D
Karelm
PS: Thanks trufflehunter for the clarification on the strawberry cut.
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Re: How are double overlay weights made?
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2007, 07:48:20 PM »
Here is a picture of my PErrthsire double overlay encase douuble overlay - on eof my all time favourite weights
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Re: How are double overlay weights made?
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2007, 08:18:22 PM »
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