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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: Frank on November 23, 2005, 09:12:29 PM

Title: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on November 23, 2005, 09:12:29 PM
I asked about this before but now it is mine and I can see the label, I would like to know who made it?
Label is too worn to photograph but has Czechoslovakia Art Glass with L&R or R&L (the &R is inside the L)

As it was made for Scotland it could be an importer label.
(http://i14.ebayimg.com/02/i/04/30/7c/17_1_b.JPG)
Title: Edinburgh Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on July 30, 2007, 09:25:48 PM
A few pictures with one of the label enhanced. Not in Hartmann.
Edinburgh vase (http://www.scotlandsglass.co.uk/cms/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=242&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=2045&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=51)
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Sklounion on July 31, 2007, 07:35:54 AM
Hi Frank,
It looks like a generic "Tango" vase, so Kralik or Harrachov are potential makers.
Sorry, no idea on the label, possibly an importer? Any possible clues in Pottery Trades Gazetteer?
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on July 31, 2007, 07:50:07 AM
Nope, need to get more digitised  ::)
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Sklounion on March 23, 2008, 06:02:23 PM
Hi Frank,
At long last, a clue..... please check P&TG, for an import company in London, Lazarus and Rosenfeld, who also appear to have had an office in Sydney Australia. @ 1933.
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on March 23, 2008, 07:09:24 PM
In a 1907 global directory they show up only in Sydney, by 1933 UK directory they had a London Office at Bevis Marks. In 1963, UK Directory, St. Andrew St they were importers of German and Japanese pottery. Czech table and ornamental lead-crystal and soda-lime. French soda-lime table glass. In 1963 as a Pty., Ltd. still active in Sydney, but only lists what they import from the UK (Empire Porcelain) - they were in same street as in 1907 (Kent Street) but a different number.

So perhaps they started out in Australia or not in London then, I did not check other towns in the 1907

None of the above directories are in the Glass-Study yet.

Googling

They set up a pottery in Czechoslovakia in 1883 so were obviouls strongly connected there too, the pottery mark is no use but is here
http://www.another1intx.com/html/european.html
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on March 23, 2008, 07:12:03 PM
For 800 plus pounds I can subscribe to a site with more data on them... perhaps I undercharge for the Glass-Study!
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Sklounion on March 23, 2008, 08:46:02 PM
£800??
I'd expect immorality membership for that much, not just life...  ;D ;D
M
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on March 23, 2008, 08:53:22 PM
That is an annual fee Marcus, sufficient for 40 years in the Glass-Study  :ac1:
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on March 23, 2008, 09:42:53 PM
Lazarus and Rosenfeld were clearly quite a big company also owning the Empire pottery. They feature in Revi's American Cut and Engraved Glass, anyone got a copy?
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Sklounion on March 24, 2008, 05:42:16 AM
Trouble with one glass too many,  ;D
I had meant to type immortality membership, but perhaps many a slip twixt cup and lip, I meant that £800 was immoral....
Regards,
Marcus
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: David E on March 24, 2008, 08:30:05 AM
For 800 plus pounds I can subscribe to a site with more data on them... perhaps I undercharge for the Glass-Study!
Perhaps you do - it has proved an invaluable service to me, so I wouldn't object to paying a little extra.
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: deco.queen on March 24, 2008, 12:17:56 PM
"Lazarus and Rosenfeld, importer of Bohemian glass, operated a showroom and shop in New York City during the last quarter of the nineteenth century and the first quartre of the twentieth century.  They were listed as cut glass manufactureres by the American Glass Trade Directory in 1918, but we have reason to believe that they did not actually cut their own wares.  At the end of WWI a brisk trade in cut glass developed with foreign factories, which was a contributing factor to the curtailment of this industry in America; the simple fact was that foreign factories could, and did, produce cut glasswares much cheaper than it was possible for American manufacturers to do." 

from American Cut and Engraved Glass by Revi

That's all it says in the book.
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on March 24, 2008, 12:59:42 PM
Thank you. They do appear to have been active in at least setting up potteries and it is quite possible they owned a glass-works or two too. So now they were existing for as much as 100 years and on 3 continents - presumably they would have had an office in Bohemia too. While not using their own name for products - not unusual for holding companies - it seems more likely that the label in the original query does relate to this company.

So turning to Hartmann I find:

They were based in Steinschönau, Bohemia from 1898 to around 1934. Listed as a Glasraffinerie (Decorators) Primarily exporting to their 'Branches' US and England.

Products included enamelled ware under the names: 'Lace de Boheme Cameo', 'Florentine Art Cameo', 'Cameo' and 'Carly'. It is also suggested that they were involved in Barolac production but these were sold in the UK by Jenkins & Co.

The New York operation is also listed as a sales organisation AND a decorator.

Products included the 'Mary Gregory' range, and pseudo cameo enamelled wares 'Florentine Art Cameo' and 'Lace de Boheme' (Acid etched signatures)
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on March 24, 2008, 01:19:48 PM
So far we have them existing as early as 1883 and as late as 1963.

A Lazarus Rozenfeld died in New York aged 74 - Jan 20th 1891 (New York Times) He was Vice-President of the Temple Emmanu-El and an important member of the Jewish community. Is the name common enough for that not to be related?

Their Australian office was quite large LINK TO PICTURES (http://www.pictureaustralia.org/apps/pictureaustralia?action=PASearch&mode=subject&complete1=true&attribute1=subject&term1=Lazarus+Rosenfeld+%28Clarence+Street%2C+Sydney%2C+N.S.W.%29)

Brands of glass Windsor Crystal and another range of Cut Glass, possibly Windsor too. Note the Servex oven-safe china, competing with Pyrex perhaps!

Who made Windsor Crystal?
Title: Re: Czechoslovakia Art Glass L&R or R&L
Post by: Frank on March 24, 2008, 03:13:26 PM
Earlier reference 1867 - design registration and different address

Proprietor: Lazarus and Rosenfeld
Address: 4 Houndsditch, London
Subject of design: Doll's Hat
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/designregisters/propitemdetail.asp?item_id=205851&proprietor=124&page=6
Oddly I cannot get into the proprietor record.

A Lazarus Rosenfeld emigrated to the US 20th May 1836 from Uhlfeld Germany on board the Ship Lucilla to Richmond Virginia.
From the same town included Emanuel Levins, Emanuel Rosenfeld and Hesekiel Rosenfeld Uhlfeld - no profession given (ISTG Vol 2)

A positively related Chicago operation was Lazarus Rosenfeld and Lehmann. The empire grows. This report mentions a $10,000 pair of vases from their Bohemian operation. http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=980CE6D8103BEF33A2575BC2A96F9C94629ED7CF

1914 mentions of their NY properties
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=9807E0DC1E39E633A25752C0A9659C946596D6CF