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Glass Discussion & Research. No ID requests here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: johnphilip on March 26, 2011, 03:41:49 PM

Title: Hi Czechsperts - ID = Sklarny Inwald
Post by: johnphilip on March 26, 2011, 03:41:49 PM
Can you look at item 120703284265 on ebay picture 7 any ideas of ID it has nowt to do with listing just me going ass about for help , :hi:
 it belongs to a fab cut crystal bomb shaped vase i have owned for about  40 years .tia :usd: :hi: I will delete the picture after a few hours .
Title: Re: Hi Czechsperts
Post by: flying free on March 26, 2011, 04:29:08 PM
JP would it have been marked for export to the French market?
Title: Re: Hi Czechsperts
Post by: dirk. on March 26, 2011, 05:01:11 PM
BTW those are all north german cities on your PW, JP....  :)
Title: Re: Hi Czechsperts
Post by: obscurities on March 27, 2011, 02:27:36 AM
If I understand the question correctly, the mark would, as previously indicated by M, have indicated that it was exported to the French market from Czechoslovakia. Not a mark I am familiar with that would lean towards a particular company.....

Although not rock solid as a time line indicator, the lack of a hyphen in the word, and/or lack of the word being in two pieces indicates more often than not that it would be late 20's or early 30's production at the earliest.....  Again, not a rock sold way to date age, but combined with style of the glass it may help to lean one direction or another.....

I would have to mention that Loetz used a two piece country word for a very long time..... hyphenated inside of an oval...
Also worth mentioning that many of the country marks applied to glass for export are thought to have been applied by exporters and not necessarily by the glass house......

I have been collecting and studying marks on Czech glass looking for some sort of pattern as to houses and what they used if they applied it, and there are only a couple of companies I feel confident in linking an acid stamp provenance mark indicating country of origin directly to. One of them is Kralik, and another one is some Welz production..... and these marks have certain characteristics which are fairly consistent.....

In many cases the provenance marks tend to exclude more companies than they point towards.....  Hope this helps....

Title: Re: Hi Czechsperts
Post by: Anne on March 27, 2011, 04:32:23 PM
JP do you want the pic adding here for reference? I can lift it from eBay for you if you want?

The mark is the one currently known as Sklo Union / Glassexport but was actually the crossed JJs of Inwald.

Marcus Newhall says in his book Sklo Union Art Before Industry  (page 163) that "some early Sklarny Inwald items from the immediate post-war period carry acid etched marks." He also states that "Roma" pattern pieces for the French market have been found with them - i.e. the Inwald crossed JJ alongside Tchecoslovaquie.

A picture of the whole vase might be useful as well JP. Feel free to email me large pics for resizing if it helps. :)
Title: Re: Hi Czechsperts - ID = Sklarny Inwald
Post by: johnphilip on March 27, 2011, 06:17:32 PM
Thanks Anne et al i am over the moon this is one of my early purchases and i love it , i always thought the mark was something a bit special , any one from this forum can use any of my pictures . I am starting a digi photography class for begginers soon then another on computing , trying to teach an old dog new tricks a bit late but who knows ? :kissy: :thup: :hi:
Title: Re: Hi Czechsperts - ID = Sklarny Inwald
Post by: Anne on March 28, 2011, 01:20:43 AM
If you have a pic of the whole vase too that would be wonderful - would love to see it anyhow. Good luck with the classes - am sure you'll get the hang of it very soon! :kissy:
Title: Re: Hi Czechsperts - ID = Sklarny Inwald
Post by: johnphilip on March 29, 2011, 05:22:48 AM
Thanks for all the help folk , Anne i have put a picture of the vase on the listing in place of signature, so can you wave your wand . Many thanks you are a babe and i dont mean that pig . :kissy: ;) :thup:
                                               Height 25cms  Width 9 cms  weight 1500 grams
                                            one does not need a degree to master in deviousity
Title: Re: Hi Czechsperts - ID = Sklarny Inwald
Post by: Anne on March 29, 2011, 04:06:25 PM
Wand waved JP. ;)