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Title: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anne on July 12, 2011, 04:01:34 PM

I'm pretty sure this is the Rosice 2051 candleholder by Filip Milos from 1957. It has a partial label, can anyone confirm please?

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anik R on July 12, 2011, 05:02:22 PM

Hi Anne... Emil appears to have the same candleholder(s) in his gallery: https://picasaweb.google.com/106370355733525107342/BohemiaGlas#5560691966806548050

Also, the 2051 candleholder appears for the first time in the 1957/7 edition of the CGR: http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue19577?authkey=Gv1sRgCLOBs4b2g6bvLg#5438382191099869890

I'm sure someone more knowledgable will be able to give you a definitive answer.  :hi:

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: norman warbreck on July 12, 2011, 05:06:50 PM

Hello Anne,
You are correct as i have 16 of these all with full labels....see my reference guide...http://www.antiques-international.ch/sklo_d/index.php?m=10&y=09&d=22&entry=entry091022-120149&category=22

nice things when lit
best
norman

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anne on July 12, 2011, 11:13:21 PM

Thank you both, that's super. I was hoping I was right. I love the shape of these candleholders!

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anik R on July 13, 2011, 07:59:06 PM

I've got a small question.  :-[

How do we know that Milos Filip designed this candleholder?  I've searched the CGR, and as far as I could tell, it figured only once, without any attribution to a designer.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?  Please?

 :hi:

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anne on July 13, 2011, 08:30:15 PM

Hmmm good question, not sure where I picked up the designer name from - it was scribbled on a scrap of paper in a pile on my desk, so presumably from googling some time ago.

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anik R on July 13, 2011, 08:49:37 PM

Anne, in his CD database, Marcus Newhall gives Milos Filip as the designer of the 2051 candleholder. :kissy:   I was just wondering where he found that attribution.  It could certainly be that I missed something in the CGR.(http://serve.mysmiley.net/confused/confused0080.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net)

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anne on July 14, 2011, 06:37:05 PM

Ahhhh right, that explains that Anik. :) I'd have found it in there then most likely... I have a terrible habit of jotting things on slips of paper which then form a pile on the side of my desk, and which are full of all sorts of odd info without sources! You've no idea how confusing it can be - especially if I just have a date and a time and no event, or a mobile number and no date...  lots of my glass notes are just a maker and pattern and sometimes designer but no evidence (which is very naughty of me) and sometimes I forget which piece it relates to so have to start over again!   :huh2:

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anik R on July 14, 2011, 08:37:58 PM

(http://serve.mysmiley.net/ashamed/ashamed0005.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net)  I know exactly how you feel...  I take quick notes on those sticky back thingies, only to lose them because they stick to things they weren't supposed to stick to in the first place.  And if they don't get inadvertently stuck somewhere they shouldn't have, I often can't figure out what I wrote, or why I wrote what I did.  Gosh.

And then I've got my 'fancy' notebook where I take note of things which are of interest to me... my notes don't get lost, but the sense of the notes do.  Plus, my drawings which are supposed to help me identify and remember things don't look a bit like they're supposed to...  And then I think to myself "Why did I even bother?"  (http://serve.mysmiley.net/sad/sad0012.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-facebook-smileys.php)

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anne on July 16, 2011, 02:47:54 PM

Anik, I think we're related! :)

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: angel2 on August 09, 2011, 10:33:10 PM

 :angel:    Hi!       :girlcheer:

I think I'm a not too distant relation as well!          ;D

angel2

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: langhaugh on August 10, 2011, 12:09:31 AM

Anik:

I'm very impressed by your artistic ability. I wish I could be as organized about what I'm looking for. I'm OK with what I've bought, but basically I think I just buy what I like. I keep saying I'm going to focus more. Not quite there yet. A notebook?  I had though of taking pictures of what I wanted and carrying them around on my iPhone, but there's a limit to its.

Anne: I like the candle-stick holder btw. I'm looking out for them as  candle-stick holders seem to be a focus of mine.

David

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Lustrousstone on August 10, 2011, 06:44:07 AM

Oooh David, my pet tautological bugbear. Candlestick holder.  >:D  :o You don't want a holder for your candlestick; you want a holder for your candle: a candlestick or a candle holder.

Sorry just doing a Sue here.  :kissy:

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: langhaugh on August 11, 2011, 05:17:16 AM

An apt reminder, Christine.  I can't remember when I started adding "holder" to candlstick, but I hope not too long ago.

May all your candles burn brightly in your candlesticks, Christine.


David

Title: Re: Rosice 2051 candleholder ?
Post by: Anne on August 19, 2011, 12:41:05 AM

I saw but didn't buy (and now wish I had!!!) a variant on this last week. It was the same size and shape, but had a recess round the candle-hole, and the bottom has a sort of indent with a small button in the centre rather than being a ground rim and central depression (birdbath style) base like this one.  Am regretting not getting it now for comparative purposes!  :-\