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Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 09, 2006, 12:30:57 PM
Now the auction has finished I can point everyone to it:

Posy (Handkerchief) Vase (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7411044932)

With less than two hours to go this was stuck at £28.00, but finished at £200.50 — sure, it's a very uncommon one but I'm quite staggered :shock:

Jeez, most Venini fazzolettos don't realise that. Oh, and Birmingham has more canals than Venice as well! :lol:
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Post by: vidrioguapo on May 09, 2006, 01:01:27 PM
Well...knock me down with a feather!!! Unbelievable!!!! Maybe I should think seriously about selling my Cut Pearl intaglio set?   Just be my luck it would die a death!!!  Emmi
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Max on May 09, 2006, 01:06:43 PM
bludddyyyyyyy hellllllll!  That is truly amazing!  :shock:  :shock:

I'm lost for words.  It does seem truly extraordinary.   :shock:  

Like Emmi says though...if I were to sell my Escher vases, they'd probably go for £2.50 or something.  THere's just no telling with Ebay which way it'll go.  :?
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 09, 2006, 01:09:15 PM
Emmi, the Cut Pearl should realise a much higher price, but as with all things the presentation is all-important. If you want me to write a little html code that you can insert into the eBay listing, this should enhance it. You shouldn't have a problem with your photos though, but a really detailed close-up would help I reckon. 8)

List it on Friday evening for 10-days. That way you get two weekends coverage and it finishes on a Monday (quiet and therefore less opposition IMHO)

Max: same applies! :)
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Post by: vidrioguapo on May 09, 2006, 01:24:46 PM
David, thanks so much for your offer....I have now got to grips with the basic e-bay html + border thing theyn offer....and it would still look better than this one that's just gone.  Trouble is I am up to my eyes in a moving house operation amongst other things taking up so much time, but I may now seriously consider it.  I noticed this one was an open auction starting at about £2.00.....Scarey! But i also think a high BIN price is also scarey for buyers!  What do you think?
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Della on May 09, 2006, 01:37:40 PM
Amazing :!:  :!:  :shock:

I do think that David had a great deal to do with the high price too.
Having a site and reference to refer to, definitely does help when selling an item.
Davids great site was used in the listing 8)

Or was it you selling it, David :twisted:  :wink:  :lol:  :?:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 09, 2006, 01:38:22 PM
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I noticed this one was an open auction starting at about £2.00.....Scarey! But i also think a high BIN price is also scarey for buyers! What do you think?

My own thoughts is to start it at a very reasoanble price (£29.95, perhaps) to encourage people to at least look. Plenty of mouth-watering piccies will persuade them well enough that this is genuine. Be very verbose with the text as well and make sure there's no doubting the validity and desirability of the item (you've probably seen my long-winded descriptions :lol:)

But even starting at 0.01p wouldn't be a problem as I know there are enough people who will pay big bucks for this - probably even more if it was the ruby intaglio.

I really don't think you'll have a problem getting a 3-figure sum, although you could set the BiN at a silly price just to see if anyone bites :P £350, £400? You never know...

Another thought is to split the two items and sell them separately.

Finally, of all the Posy vases, this and the Ruby are the only ones I would always have on display with absolute pride. They really are the bees-knees 8)
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 09, 2006, 01:42:11 PM
Quote from: "Deltab"
Amazing :!:  :!:  :shock:

I do think that David had a great deal to do with the high price too.


 :oops: I'm feeling guilty now! I said to Anne a long time ago that it's quite frightening that people are hanging on every word to sell their own items, so I've tried hard to be as subjective as possible. Even minimising the use of the dreaded "rare" word :D

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Having a site and reference to refer to, definitely does help when selling an item.
Davids great site was used in the listing 8)

Or was it you selling it, David :twisted:  :wink:  :lol:  :?:

Thanks a lot Della, it really is appreciated.

No, not mine, but wished it was... :wink:
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Post by: vidrioguapo on May 09, 2006, 02:59:34 PM
Well I may just do a high B I N and see what happens.....if it doesn't sell it's not a big deal, but it would be nice.

Rather it didn't sell than sell at a pathetic price, so in for a penny in for ...????
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 09, 2006, 03:25:06 PM
Pre the web catalogue Pirelli sold at 2 to 5 pounds. Now they sell for ten to thirty times those figures.

The principle as old as the hills, get the information out there AND seen then up go the prices.

Richard Dennis is well known for taking this to the extreme.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 09, 2006, 03:42:40 PM
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The principle as old as the hills, get the information out there AND seen then up go the prices.

That's very true, but I wonder how sustainable Chance glass will become. If demand exists, of course...

Richard Dennis? Is he the publishing magnate?

So... what's the next collecting craze, so we can all jump on the band-wagon :shock:  :wink:

Emmi: you can always start it at £49, £99, £149 or whatever, but 99p does have a ring to it! :lol: Seriously, I think it will sell quite easily and wouldn't worry about a high start price as anything worth its salt and described well will usually reach a good figure.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 09, 2006, 04:58:51 PM
Now, yes but he started as a humble dealer and then had the idea of doing a book on all of the unsaleable stuff he was accumulating. I presume he still has his upmarket store in Ken Church st.

Victor Arwas did the same thing with art glass. He started with money and filled a warehouse before publishing, the rest is history.

I would have thought that Chance glass was made in sufficient quantities to have a large enough collector base to sustain stable prices. Probably made more pieces in one design then all of the Monart ever made.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Pip on May 09, 2006, 05:16:22 PM
BLIMEY!!!! Only just caught up with this thread - I'm staggered.  David, I might quote or link your site on some of my (bog standard) Chance glass auctions if you dont mind?  Can't hurt :-)
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 09, 2006, 05:21:10 PM
eBay is one of the best marketting tools on the web for specialist web-sites, I always encourage quoting.

My stamp collection has been mostly marketted on eBay and I have had over a hundred sales off eBay as a result. The only limitation is that the single link has to be an info site, so I link to my Me page and place the sale link there. This is what you learn if you buy one of those guides to getting rich on eBay.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 09, 2006, 05:21:27 PM
Hi Pip, yes, feel free to link: the more exposure the better. I'm trying to educate people selling their "1950s" handkerchief vases with 1970s labels that they are much later, and that Margaret Casson did not necessarily design Swirl!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Pip on May 09, 2006, 05:24:48 PM
Good tips Frank thank you, and David thank you also, however I'm embarrassed to admit I'm one of those guilty of wrongly attributing Margaret Casson to Swirl  :oops: (who was it then???)
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 09, 2006, 05:29:58 PM
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... wrongly attributing Margaret Casson to Swirl  (who was it then???)

Good question. Next?

No-one seems to know. She designed Wild Rice (52), Night Sky (57) and Green Leaves (1958) to the best of my knowledge, but there's no mention of the Swirl designer. I did ask Tony Cartwright but even he doesn't know. :cry:

I'd love to know purely to give the guy/gal proper credit for one of the most iconic 1950s designs :)

Hey, I just realised that if I put 1958 as
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(58) it gives me this (58)

 :shock:  :lol:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 09, 2006, 05:31:26 PM
Have you tried the Design History museum.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 09, 2006, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: "Frank"
Have you tried the Design History museum.

Nope, but I have various places still left to try. Any URL?

Pilkington's archives are not very helpful... :(
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 09, 2006, 05:34:44 PM
http://www.designmuseum.org/ ???
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 10, 2006, 09:02:34 AM
:D:shock::D

I've only just found this, David. Unbelievable!
(Sorry, it's a really dull and uninteresting handkie, even if it is...........rare). I suspect a bit of a fluke, though. :D
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 10, 2006, 09:14:51 AM
An incredible sum, but it only takes two anxious bidders wanting the same item to push the price up 8)  

I'm still uncertain about the use of the term 'rare' to describe any Chance slumped glass: the reason being they probably produced 'scarce' patterns in thousands before dropping it from their range should it prove unpopular. Night Sky is such an example.

Then again, if 99% got thrown away or broken over the years, I suppose it then becomes 'rare' by default :D

 :oops: Sorry, just having a 'semantic' moment... :lol:  :roll:

With regard to this pattern, it was a genuine Chance production item and so far in about nine months of scouring eBay listings, this is only the third. Came in just black and red as far as I know.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 10, 2006, 10:45:22 AM
That's the one, irritating that it is only full content on flash. Only 15% of the visitors to my site have flash installed.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 10, 2006, 10:51:28 AM
I checked that one out some time ago, Frank. No luck on the web site but I'll drop them an e-mail to see if it jogs any memories.

I still have the vain hope that the Swirl designer can be properly recognised. :?
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 10, 2006, 10:56:30 AM
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Only 15% of the visitors to my site have flash installed.

That's quite surprising! According to Macromedia some time ago, I think they reckoned that 98% of the world's computers had Flash installed, but I always had serious doubts about that claim  :wink:

There are some industries that refuse to allow it to be installed: MoD is one such. Hmm, I wonder why... (rhetorical!)
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 10, 2006, 11:00:03 AM
The museum is a centre for design researchers. Another option that you could follow up is the design history department at the V&A. This is currently a groovy area of study so it is well peopled with good researchers - it should be possible to track down the designer. I also believe their is a designers guild that might help.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 10, 2006, 11:06:28 AM
Thanks I'll check that out and the V&A as well.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 10, 2006, 11:41:41 AM
Flash is banned in most corporate environments as it is considered a security risk. I have not worked for a single corporation that allows it - only smaller operations. It can be very frustrating as a lot of small software companies only have flash sites and you have to call them for a print-out of their website by snail-mail. Naturally, unless you have seen the product and know it to be worth looking at, you do not bother and stick to the non-flash vendors.

As to my website it shows that many glass interested people use fairly basic systems without adding bells and whistles. Accordingly the majority 89% are windows users with IE6 65%. Interestingly 35% are using Firefox now, it really is gaining ground on Microsoft! Actually it is 35% Flash now, just looked again. But as my visitors are in low numbers the statistics change a lot.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 10, 2006, 12:54:53 PM
:D:D:D

I don't know what this "Flash" thing is, but sometimes I have to wait AGES for a page here to open because of the things that come along with your signature, Frank. It's generally after I've used AdAware and Stinger to clean up. I presume I don't have "Flash"? :?
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 10, 2006, 01:00:08 PM
Go to: http://www.designmuseum.org

If you click on the 'Flash' version and it asks you to install the Flash viewer, then you haven't :wink:

Some 'Applets' really slow my system up for some reason and http://www.chanceglass.co.uk is one such example. Not a great fan of them.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Anne E.B. on May 17, 2006, 11:42:13 AM
Take a look at this :shock:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws.eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7414519896

And whilst I'm on about handkerchief vases (whoops, sorry - Posy bowls :lol: ) David, I've got one that for some reason I thought was Aqualux c.65 but then couldn't find it  when I checked:shock  :roll:   :?  Must be a 'Senior moment'  I'll submit a pic. on the correct link.  I was just in the process of listing in in fleabay and had a panic about it.  Lost my listing now :evil:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 17, 2006, 12:23:35 PM
Ooh, I've been watching this for days! But it'll be interesting to see what it goes for. You'll also find some others going for surprising prices, like a chocolate & cream 'Wide Band' model that's currently £51.

'Wide Band': anyone got a better name for this pattern? I've been unable to determine the official name, so it may be open to offers.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Max on May 17, 2006, 03:38:51 PM
Quote from: "DenCill"

'Wide Band': anyone got a better name for this pattern? I've been unable to determine the official name, so it may be open to offers.


How about the 'Max Kimber' vase?  I think that's got a ring to it.   :P  :P

(What d'you mean I'm being unreasonable??!)
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 17, 2006, 04:49:48 PM
Quote from: "Max"
Quote from: "DenCill"

'Wide Band': anyone got a better name for this pattern? I've been unable to determine the official name, so it may be open to offers.


How about the 'Max Kimber' vase?  I think that's got a ring to it.   :P  :P

(What d'you mean I'm being unreasonable??!)

 :lol:  Hey, stop being greedy: you already have an old Aqualux texture named after you (Maxine!) :wink:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 17, 2006, 05:01:39 PM
How about Bowey.

Link?
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 17, 2006, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: "Frank"
How about Bowey.

Link?

Hmm, not a bad idea – would be nice to recognise her contribution!

For a photo, see the Chance section in LJ's 20th C Factory Glass. It quotes the four textures as: Hammered, Flemish, Stippolyte and Maxine, which is top-right in photo (a fine basket-weave that you can just make out). I'll have to see if I can use that photo...

EDIT: If you meant a link to the eBay listing:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7414653500
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 17, 2006, 05:10:54 PM
Looks nice, I am sure she would appreciate it, so I second my own suggestion. :shock:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 17, 2006, 05:12:07 PM
Duhh, just seen your link, now confused which one need naming?
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 17, 2006, 05:15:13 PM
The Choc & Cream 'wide band' is the item on eBay* – that might need naming if no ex-worker from Chance can remember, or if it's not documented.

But 'Bowey' it is otherwise.

Edit: * I don't mean the colour, but the pattern type (Wide Band)
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 18, 2006, 08:44:27 PM
And here's the result of the 4" Chocolate & Cream 'Bowey' posy vase :D

7414653500 - £86.21 (the buyer is a serious purchaser of these!)
I've actually got one like this as well  :roll:  :P

There is another 'Bowey' vase coming up soon in blue.

Also:
7414519896: £102.20 - red 7" 'Grid' pattern
7414572961: £36.55 - red 4" Psychedelic
7414312595: £41.00 - purple 7" Cordon

But only £13.03 for a red 'Escher' :?:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 18, 2006, 08:58:20 PM
Better send Angela a picture of the Bowey piece, I am sure she will appreciate on her travels.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Max on May 21, 2006, 04:20:12 PM
:shock:  :shock: I put my 7" high blue Escher print hankerchief vase on Ebay this afternoon.  It sold immediately!  :D  :D

The link is too enormous to put on here, but it was Ebay No.7416886092

I think we can safely say that Chance glass IS collectable!   :shock:  :D  :D  :D

<very big smile!>  :D

Thanks to David for a great Chance Glass site, I'm sure it helped.  :D
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 21, 2006, 04:23:43 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7416886092

Is better?

Great price though!  :D  :D  :D
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on May 21, 2006, 05:03:53 PM
Max one should be careful about making assumptions based on anecdotal evidence, the case is still far from proven :twisted:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Pip on May 21, 2006, 05:26:15 PM
:shock:  Woooo hoooooo - it's your round then Max!!!!  Nice one ...
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Max on May 21, 2006, 07:17:18 PM
Oh Frank, you're such a cynic!   <glares>  :wink:

Pip...I've just spend the best part of £50 on a takeaway curry for five people...lol Easy come, easy go!   :lol:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 24, 2006, 01:16:30 PM
As a matter of interest, I currently have 118 different types of Posy Vase identified. This includes patterns, colours and sizes, and the 'Antique' textured range.

Some one let me know when you have every one and I'll come and take a photo! :shock:  :lol:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on May 26, 2006, 08:58:45 AM
Ohhhhh sounds like a challenge!!

Quick head count reveals only 40 maybe a little shopping is in order. Might have to blow the budget though dont think I'll get an escher or psychadelic for £8!!!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 26, 2006, 09:06:20 AM
Hi K, I was fortunate enough to get my Escher for just a tenner but it had small chip on the inside rim. Very difficult to find though! But I have seen them going quite cheap recently (not the Physco ones though!)

Incidentally, the official name for the Escher is actually Carré — sorry not shouting but just so you can see the accented 'e' properly :P Apparently they never sold well, hence the reason they're now so collectable.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Max on May 26, 2006, 09:10:58 AM
Hey David  :D

I actually spoke to my Mum last night  :shock:, you'll remember she's a mad glass collector?  She reminded me she has three large hankerchief vases in her wardrobe (where else? lol)...

One's yellow gingham and the others are plain.  Looks like I'll have to sell them for her.  :P  :wink:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on May 26, 2006, 09:24:26 AM
Glad you spoke to your Mom :wink:

I've starting to log all the eBay sales of select vases (trying to monitor every single Cordon or Bandell would be a nightmare :o ). The only 7" Gingham that's sold in the last 30 days is a white one and this reached £28. However, I think they should do much better.

IF they still have their labels, then the price goes absolutely mad: a 4" yellow gingham with label got £26.56! But a 5" Cordon in orange with label (but looking like a 4"!) – the plain pinstripe – recently got £74.50 :shock:  :shock:

The size to always go for is 5" and I only have two myself. These are the scarce ones and should fetch a premium.

EDIT: The 8" ones are not very common either, but in all likelihood, your Mom's are 7" high (but pray for 5" :) )
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 09, 2006, 09:19:42 AM
A scarce sky-blue Candy Stripe posy vase just sold for £68.02

See: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7419958801
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 22, 2006, 07:26:12 AM
I try not to comment on live auctions and will keep this brief, but any bets on what this will eventually reach??? :shock:

Item: 7424024470

 :shock: Reverse white-red Polka-dot Posy Vase (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2F7424024470_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1&item=7424024470&rd=1) :shock:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on June 22, 2006, 07:38:05 AM
Ten euros it reaches 68 pounds. :twisted: 

Too late to change the wording of your post :P
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on June 23, 2006, 09:01:06 AM
:roll:

already £92 with 5 days left till end of auction!  If only I had one hiding in my house somewhere  :D
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 23, 2006, 09:06:54 AM
So you're not going to buy this then K? :lol:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on June 23, 2006, 09:14:16 AM
David I won the bet, you can send my ten Euros via Paypal :D
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on June 23, 2006, 09:14:56 AM
Well I tried mortgaging the dog but who wants an overweight Basset with smelly breath??? although I did find 20p last night on our walk, maybe if I could persuade him to walk a little futher I might find £100 lying around somewhere!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 23, 2006, 09:18:47 AM
Quote from: "Frank"
David I won the bet, you can send my ten Euros via Paypal :D

Ah, but I didn't say anything about who to place the bet with - I understand Mr. Ladbroke was very interested... :twisted:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on June 23, 2006, 09:37:37 AM
Wriggle, wriggle, wriggle :x
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 23, 2006, 09:39:36 AM
K,

With respect to your earlier comment:

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Might have to blow the budget though dont think I'll get an escher or psychadelic for £8!!!

I didn't want to tempt fate until it arrived, but I've just received the orange Physchedelic vase that I bid for successfully. Cost? £1.25 + £4 P&P - even included Recorded Delivery!

Hmm, with this good fortune maybe I should send Frank Eu.10 to stop him complaining... :wink:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on June 23, 2006, 09:48:54 AM
Eeeek don't tell me u got it from poundstretcher!! Will have to keep eyes peeled for bargains although everyone seems to want everything at the moment! Still it makes work more interesting, watching other people fight over things! Maybe getting internet at work not such a bad thing.

Wonder what Frank could get with €10.........???????
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 23, 2006, 09:50:55 AM
Quote from: "K"
Wonder what Frank could get with €10.........???????

A nice Chance posy vase?  :twisted:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on June 23, 2006, 09:53:02 AM
Well maybe a clear glass one with a couple of chips!!!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on June 23, 2006, 09:59:37 AM
Quote from: "K"
Wonder what Frank could get with €10.........???????


A nice rare piece of unrecognised Monart :D
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 23, 2006, 10:04:34 AM
Well.. a clear glass Chance posy vase would be worth getting!

Incidentally, there's another scarce model on offer: 7422830767 – a 7" (18cm) blue Carré. A black model fetched just over £200 and actually prompted this thread in the first place.

Frank, it's always the unrecognised items that become the bargains - the orange Physchedelic was one such case, of course.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on June 23, 2006, 10:05:36 AM
Well if u r interested Frank could offer u a nice fat Basset hound going cheap at €10 (his breath smells)
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on June 23, 2006, 10:16:15 AM
I don't think Useless would like it very much

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1173

although he would certainly be licking its mouth if it smells that bad  :lol:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on June 23, 2006, 10:28:31 AM
Aww he's cute, is useless really his name?? would post a pic of Bertie but am at work (really really busy....yawn!!) just looking at things I can't afford. Wonder if Dencill will give me €10 to shop with
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on June 23, 2006, 10:44:21 AM
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/y634rrp/detail?.dir=35eb&.dnm=fdec.jpg&.src=ph

Does that work??? If it does it's a puppy picture he no longer looks like that :( now he's big & fat & obstinate!!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 23, 2006, 10:51:07 AM
Yup that works - typical Bassett pose!

Now all you need to do is post your own photo in the Roques Gallery!

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=100
 :D
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on June 23, 2006, 11:57:05 AM
Useless by name, nature and educatability. He does have some redeeming features, if I can remember them I will post them 8)
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 23, 2006, 09:16:46 PM
Streuth: that reverse polka-dot has gone up to £155 with just under five days to go!!! :shock:  :o  :P
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Anne E.B. on June 23, 2006, 09:24:59 PM
Its all your fault :!:  :lol:  8)  :twisted:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on June 23, 2006, 09:33:22 PM
Who? Me? Whadda've I done??? :shock:  :o

Welcome back Anne!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Anne on June 23, 2006, 11:43:42 PM
Quote from: "DenCill"
Yup that works - typical Bassett pose!

Now all you need to do is post your own photo in the Roques Gallery!

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=100
 :D


And we have our own collections of Moggies and Doggies that your pooch is welcome in too: http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=75
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on August 28, 2006, 08:58:32 PM
NEW RECORD

A cream and yellow Wide Band vase just sold for £215.79  :shock:  :shock:  :shock:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230020104404
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Anne on August 28, 2006, 09:04:51 PM
Good grief! That's astounding.  :shock:
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: aa on August 28, 2006, 09:24:45 PM
Can't find the emoticon for "falls off chair".
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on August 29, 2006, 03:57:56 PM
*finds the slumped glass forum*!!!
*looses the pic of the vase tho.....sure its on here somewhere

http://i2.tinypic.com/spdxs6.jpg

http://i2.tinypic.com/spdy6d.jpg

if that doesnt work will have to find camera!!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on August 29, 2006, 04:12:08 PM
K, as a suggestion you could use Anne's Glass Gallery - it's there for the benefit of GMB members. The problem with TinyPic is that the photos have a limited 'shelf-life' and will eventually be discarded.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk

The vase you show is the type I have seen before so I'm assuming this other one is an oddity and have asked the seller for use of the photo. Yours will still get a good price though!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on August 29, 2006, 04:49:48 PM
Yeah I thought it would be more 'natural' to go dark colour at bottom then lighter colour. Wonder if all the wide band models have a 'dark side'!! Or do you think someone at the factory had a sense of humour & thought they would leave the rest of us puzzling over oddities for years!! Purchased a 7" black cordon recently which exactly fits the transfer (no clear glass at edge) Wonder who spent the time getting an exact fit???
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on August 30, 2006, 05:26:43 PM
Chance were always experimenting and these oddities can often be test pieces. The 'correct' way is white, light colour, dark colour, so this one is very odd.

As they were silk-screen printed, it could just have been someone using the wrong enamel at the wrong time!

With respect to the Cordon vase: it is possible these was enamel sprayed rather than silk-screened, which doesn't allow printing to the edge. Difficult to tell the difference, but if you use a magnifying lgass you may just detect a slight texture of a regular pattern (the screen). Sprayed vases would not have any definable pattern.

However, if the white portion is smooth as a babies botty, then you're looking at opal glass (very rare) - see Nic's topic...

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6869.0.html

This vase is rare on three counts: opal glass, no pattern and 8" tall  :shock:  :D
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on September 01, 2006, 09:36:39 AM
well have had a good look at it & am really none the wiser!! It's definately 7" & appears to be clear glass (although it is really hard to tell with nothing to compare it to!!) the pattern feels the same as all the other cordon vases I have (7" & 4") am in the process of borrowing a magnifying glass & my husbands eyes for a closer look!! Have looked at Nic's & it does have the similarity of the pattern to the edges though so at least I'm not completely odd!!!!  :?
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: josordoni on September 01, 2006, 11:34:07 AM
When you are measuring the handkerchief vases, are you measuring height  to the highest point or across the widest part of the rim?
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on September 01, 2006, 12:51:24 PM
to the points (roughly!!) Dencill is the expert I struggled to find a ruler!!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Glass Message Board on September 01, 2006, 03:36:24 PM
Measure vertically to a point. This is only a rough guide but it does help to distinguish between the four sizes: 4", 5", 7", 8" (10, 12.5, 17.5, 20 cm)
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on September 01, 2006, 03:42:34 PM
woo hoo my first 5"  :shock:
a yellow & orange (or is it orange & yellow) gingham looks outta place tho do I put it with the 4" ones or the 7" ones or get hubby to put up another shelf!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on September 01, 2006, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: "K"
woo hoo my first 5"  :shock:
a yellow & orange (or is it orange & yellow) gingham looks outta place tho do I put it with the 4" ones or the 7" ones or get hubby to put up another shelf!

Well done: now get the 4" and 7" ones to accompany it (I have both, but not the 5" one!) - but I do have a complete set of rrd polka-dots :D

K, if you can supply a photo of your oddity I might be able to tell you a little more.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on September 02, 2006, 10:32:21 AM
well I have the 4" but not the 7" p&p tends to blow the budget & I do like to get a bargain! got 2 4" & 2 7" ones for £7 recently cos someone bid & didnt pay! am having trouble getting pics onto gallery (not my fault I was born blonde!) have put them on yahoo hopefully that will work

http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/y634rrp/album?.dir=c5a6re2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on September 02, 2006, 10:46:39 AM
Thanks, those came through fine.

As the white goes to the edge it can be one of two finishes:

1. Opal flashed glass - this is a glass surface, not sprayed, so will be very shiny.

2. Enamel sprayed - this will appear duller than a opal glass finish.

However, looking at the photos, I would say it was spayed enamel and then silk-screen printed with the Cordon pattern. If it were opal-flashed the colour would be a lighter-grey and not the brighter finish exhibited on yours.

But for all that, it's still quite uncommon and probably an earlier model.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on September 03, 2006, 08:45:39 AM
Thanks David  :D
Seems in very good nick too if it's an earlier model, no wear on base & a nice black colour
Will have to put it on the 'Do not dust in anger shelf!'
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on November 06, 2006, 05:47:51 PM
Another posy vase that got a very high price for no reason I can discern apart from two enthusiastic bidders:

Plain black Bandel for £25.10 ???!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190043886488
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Cathy B on November 07, 2006, 12:34:02 AM
Hi David,
This is another problem of glass researchers! As people start to learn about companies, they push prices up - and as you say, it only takes two people with rushes of blood to the head.
Cathy.
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on November 07, 2006, 09:43:38 AM
I wonder if it was shilling? I did look but it all looked above board.

Hmm, "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing"... but they didn't get it from me!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: josordoni on November 07, 2006, 04:38:20 PM
It's very exciting cos I've got this HUGE Chance handkerchief vase sitting on the top of the cupboard, and I have just got to check the pattern and I hope it is worth A FORTUNE .... cos it was worth tuppence when I got it!
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Max on November 07, 2006, 05:20:37 PM
Bah!  Bought a honeysuckle triangular dish yesterday in a charity shop.  Forgot it was in the boot of car, and accidently tipped it out onto the drive whilst looking for something today.  

What a waste of £1.50!!!   :x
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on November 07, 2006, 10:08:53 PM
That depends how the 1.50 gets used from then on, surely?
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Max on November 07, 2006, 10:19:36 PM
Quote from: "Frank"
That depends how the 1.50 gets used from then on, surely?


Ok, I should re-phrase that.  "That was a terrible waste of slumped glass, wasn't it?!".

<glares at Frank for being clever>
Title: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Frank on November 07, 2006, 10:21:46 PM
Hmmm...

Slumped glass has fallen by its nature... so you just helped it to complete its destiny. :twisted:
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: sph@ngw on January 05, 2007, 05:48:08 PM
Felix ("Tutenkhamoon/ Creasus") Dennis is the magazine magnet, poet and wine lover btw!  he is planting a 20,000 hectare Forest to be known as "the Forest of Dennis" in a secret location and has completed over half of it I believe!
How do you hide and keep secret a 10,000h forest? Must be almost visible from the moon!!!!!!! :o
Yes, I have met him, and he is quite a character............and a non stop smoker!
Don't think he collects glass though! He suggested I design a Mausoleum with stained glass windows......! (For me, not him as he will be buried in his forest under a wooden pyramid tomb!)
Stephen
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: josordoni on January 05, 2007, 05:51:10 PM
It's very exciting cos I've got this HUGE Chance handkerchief vase sitting on the top of the cupboard, and I have just got to check the pattern and I hope it is worth A FORTUNE .... cos it was worth tuppence when I got it!

I just happened to mention it to a buyer who had come to collect some Whitefriars, and he bought it on the spot for a price that seemed to suit us both.  So a good result!

Naturally, I spent the next day wondering if I had undersold it, but hey!  Money in the bank!  got to be good to take the profit, eh??
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on January 05, 2007, 06:03:34 PM
Felix ("Tutenkhamoon/ Creasus") Dennis is the magazine magnet, poet and wine lover btw!  he is planting a 20,000 hectare Forest to be known as "the Forest of Dennis" in a secret location and has completed over half of it I believe!

There was a documentary recently on this forest and his plans looked most impressive. But I suppose he can be forgiven for being a smoker, if he's planting all that lovely wood :)

Edit: I believe it's in Oxford somewhere
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Anne on January 06, 2007, 02:57:27 AM
Felix Dennis was being interviewed on our local Radio Cumbria recently about his poetry and read some of it out. He has a new book/CD (http://www.amazon.co.uk/When-Jack-Sued-Felix-Dennis/dp/0091912563/sr=8-1/qid=1168052203/ref=pd_ka_1/026-6545619-8696468?ie=UTF8&s=books) out as well which I'm going looking for when next in town. He sounds like a wonderfully eccentric sort of chap.  ;D (He didn't mention the forest though.)
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: Max on January 06, 2007, 09:28:05 AM
At a tangent (as usual  ::)) slightly, talk of secret forests reminded me of this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_swastika

Maybe Felix Dennis could have a pyramid shaped tree-art shape...  ;D

Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on January 26, 2007, 10:35:48 AM
e-bay shop item 320075312128 might be of interest to you Mr Encill 5" in green doesnt seem to be included in your website (would but it but money & space r very lacking here at the mo!!)
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on January 26, 2007, 10:50:50 AM
Thanks 'K' (it's "David" BTW!) 8)

This is the small Flemish texture and, as you say, isn't listed on my site - however, this really does not look like a 5" to me as the folds are too irregular - more like a 7" or 8" (I have already noted these sizes).

I've sent the seller a mail asking for clarification on the height.
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on January 27, 2007, 03:19:01 PM
I had a reply from the seller. The actual height is 6¾-inches, so it is a standard 'medium' handkerchief vase.
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on February 02, 2007, 01:30:45 PM
Glad I didn't bother to buy it then!
Got a nice bargain this week on e-bay 170075406709 just how many different ways do people spell handkerchief?
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on February 02, 2007, 05:06:40 PM
Wow, that was lucky - well done!

Quoted as being 5" high, but I suspect that's incorrect (as is the date of 1960!)
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: K on February 03, 2007, 01:45:39 PM
Yeah it's a 4" seems the seller spent a lot of time doing their research!
Title: Re: Who said Chance glass wasn't collectable?
Post by: David E on February 03, 2007, 01:53:16 PM
Now if only there was a web site...  ::) ;D