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Title: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: langhaugh on February 26, 2011, 01:28:11 AM
OK, I admit it. Envy has nibbled at my toes a couple of times this week, Anik with her Matura vase and Michael with his Hlava piece. But with arrival this morning of Evi, the wonder postwoman, I envy no more!

Now, I know some of you will look at the little glass thistles and think it somewhat sad, pathetic even, that the Scotsman so far from home should take such solace from two little pieces of glass made in Czechoslovakia, whose main recommendation is that they are in the shape of thistle, all consideration of nemo me impune lacessit aside. However, the true tartan aficionado will recognize as I do (my first job was in a, no, the tartan mill) that the lid of the box that contains these little gems is the rare and much sought after tartan, the MacParik tartan.

It's named, we are led to believe, after Jindrich MacParik, who came to Scotland in the 1920's, whispered words of wisdom in Ysart ears, one night quietly showed  Edinburgh & Leith workers how glass should be cut, and, playing under an assumed name, scored the winning goal for Airdrieonians the one time they won Scottish Cup.

I stress that, because of the incredible sentimental value it has for me,  this item is not for sale. However, please consult your bank manager first if you are considering making me an offer.

David
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: bOBA on February 26, 2011, 01:02:19 PM
Classy glass David!
I have never seen something so clearly designed for the export market in my life! I wonder if there is a Shamrock shaped version with a green box too! Jindrich may recognise the factory pattern too, though I slightly doubt the extistance of a MacParik tartan!

Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: Carolyn Preston on February 27, 2011, 12:35:03 AM
I'm madly jealous David. That's a fine example of Scottish  :sc: kitsch. If you truly not interested in keeping them, do let me know. I could give them a fine, fine home.

Carolyn
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: langhaugh on February 27, 2011, 12:55:00 AM
Carolyn

Thanks for the kind offer.  To my surprise/horror, these are the first pieces of glass I've bought for a while that my wife actually likes--and she's a Canadian of Scandinavian background.

David
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: Carolyn Preston on February 27, 2011, 01:39:53 AM
Well dang. But if anyone sees any more like this... :sc: R us.

Carolyn
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: Anne on February 27, 2011, 01:48:51 AM
Carolyn I saw one today in town - I'm back there on Tuesday so if it's still in the shop I'll bag it for you. Keep your fingers crossed!
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: kane_u_pain on February 27, 2011, 04:05:24 AM
  :huh:

I know i am dim...but???... :ho:
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: Jindra8526 on February 27, 2011, 09:29:35 AM
Hi David
this piece came from Jablonecke sklarny, possibly older pattern refreshed by Vaclav Hanus. Late 50ties, beg 60ties.

Jindrich (not Mac and not Donald) :-)
www.cs-sklo.cz
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: shugdens on February 27, 2011, 10:28:55 AM
I'm not being rude but is this a tounge in cheek thread? I come across these quite often, labled & boxed & usualy ignore them.
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 27, 2011, 10:50:26 AM
No it's not tongue in cheek entirely; Carolyn and David both live in Canada. David is an ex-pat Scot and Carolyn's husband has Scottish roots. They don't find them in Canada. Carolyn collects Scottish kitsch (most of which was/is never made in Scotland).
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: shugdens on February 27, 2011, 11:38:47 AM
No it's not tongue in cheek entirely; Carolyn and David both live in Canada. David is an ex-pat Scot and Carolyn's husband has Scottish roots. They don't find them in Canada. Carolyn collects Scottish kitsch (most of which was/is never made in Scotland).

He he, I cant talk I got very excited about a piece of uranium glass i basicaly found on the floor that turned out to be a kettle handle.
If I see another set I'll grab em if there not to expencive if you cant get hold of them.
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 27, 2011, 11:57:47 AM
I see these around too.
I'm also sure I've got a load of Scottish kitsch. Just for a start, I have a (Wiltshaw & Robinson, pre-1927) Carltonware cauldron in blush ware, with enamelled lucky White Heather from Montrose on it.
I can't currently reach a load of tot glasses, which might include Scottish themes.

Have any collectors of Scottish kitsch got one of the Ysart collapsed whisky bottle ashtrays?
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: shugdens on February 27, 2011, 01:07:07 PM
I see these around too.
I'm also sure I've got a load of Scottish kitsch. Just for a start, I have a (Wiltshaw & Robinson, pre-1927) Carltonware cauldron in blush ware, with enamelled lucky White Heather from Montrose on it.
I can't currently reach a load of tot glasses, which might include Scottish themes.

Have any collectors of Scottish kitsch got one of the Ysart collapsed whisky bottle ashtrays?
I missed a Czech glass labled scotsman sculptue at auction before xmas, it only went for £5 in the end. I reaserched the maker but forgot who it was.
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: Carolyn Preston on February 27, 2011, 09:03:48 PM
 :huh:

I know i am dim...but???... :ho:

It's okay Kane. I collect Scottish Kitsch and these lovely dishes certainly qualify under that heading. I am not of the understanding that these are high end art glass!  :thud:

Carolyn
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: Carolyn Preston on February 27, 2011, 09:07:46 PM
I see these around too.
I'm also sure I've got a load of Scottish kitsch. Just for a start, I have a (Wiltshaw & Robinson, pre-1927) Carltonware cauldron in blush ware, with enamelled lucky White Heather from Montrose on it.
I can't currently reach a load of tot glasses, which might include Scottish themes.

Have any collectors of Scottish kitsch got one of the Ysart collapsed whisky bottle ashtrays?

Hey Sue, so far I have managed to resist the urge. It's important to note that I don't just collect glass, but all types of things.

Carolyn
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: bOBA on February 28, 2011, 09:38:55 AM
I am certain this is a slightly humerous post and that David is well aware of the Scottish Kitsch value of these items, more than any commercial value, which is minimal I am sure! "Scottish Kitsch" sums them up perfectly. It is also great for Jindrich to have attributed the piece, which is very welcome too!!!


Robert (bOBA)
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: Anik R on February 28, 2011, 02:34:25 PM
I got all excited when I read the heading "The ultimate in Czech glass"... dear me.  ;D
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: langhaugh on February 28, 2011, 03:58:59 PM
Robert:

Are you suggesting that when I paid $5.99 for these I paid too much?  I know that Anik can buy three very good Czech pieces for this price.

Thanks to Jindrich for the attribution. They are quite well made. Does your reply ("not mac") mean that we won't be seeing a picture of you in your kilt, Jindrich?

David

Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: chopin-liszt on February 28, 2011, 04:53:27 PM
 :hi:
I just peeked at your albums, David, in the unknowns, you have a pink thing with bubbles and inclusions (564 Chinese) which we believe is Romanian - does it have a bright sort of rainbowy lustre on the outside?
And the 582 thing, blue and green insidey bits, bears some resemblance to bits by John Orwar Lake I've seen, though somebody who knows his work better than I do should really be consulted before any attribution is made.
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: langhaugh on March 01, 2011, 12:04:37 AM
Sue:

Thanks for looking at my Unknowns. The "pink thing with bubbles and inclusions (564 Chinese)" has a clear exterior and an unpolished base. Romanian would certainly be a possibility. Any sites I could check?

I see what you mean about colours in the other piece and John Orwar Lake, whose stuff I really like; in fact, a blue and green vase arrived this morning. I've never seen a Lake piece this shape, though. I might post it to see what others think. It was advertised as Flygsfors, I bought it thinking it might be Skrdlovice, and I'm currently leaning towards Lorraine of Montreal.

David
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 01, 2011, 03:03:03 PM
There have been a few pieces of the same origins as the pink bubbly thing - if it has a shiny and rainbowy lustred outside - the shapes are becoming familiar - this is one of tham, but in general, they're just very distinctive. I don't think we know much more that Romanian origin though - I think it was Ivo confirmed this origin. I've got 3 bits.
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: rocco on March 01, 2011, 06:18:32 PM
Look what I just came across while browsing through old CGR issues :)

http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue195978?authkey=Gv1sRgCKak4vbYrNyvyQE#5439881368608116050 (http://picasaweb.google.com/Jindra8526/Glasrevue195978?authkey=Gv1sRgCKak4vbYrNyvyQE#5439881368608116050)

Michael
Title: Re: The ultimate in Czech glass
Post by: langhaugh on March 01, 2011, 08:35:07 PM
Thanks, Michael. It's great having visual confirmation. I can't quite read the text so I'll have to check CGR to see if it confirms Jindrich's take on the designer of and of the tartan. (The last part is a joke.)

David