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Title: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Galle on August 14, 2009, 09:28:39 PM
Frank asked me to start a new thread on this topic, so I am happy to do so.

I purchased a piece on eBay recently that had a paper label that I had never seen before. I found the label in the Glasmarken Lexikon, where it was listed as Rachmann Brothers, Haida. A loose translation of the German thanks to Altavista said that they were indeed a glass and metalworks, and that the brothers split the company in two at some point, one keeping the glassworks, and the other taking over the metalworks.

There is an advertisement that confirms the glass and metalworks (all in German) on this blog page - notice the man with the winged hat appears in the advertisement:

http://lischke.blogspot.com/

Photos are attached, and my vase is documented in a page on my site here:

http://sites.google.com/site/bohemianglassandmore/miscellaneous-identified-pieces

and along with another one I found on eBay (but did not buy) an Alfredo Villanueva's site here:

http://sites.google.com/site/loetzandglass/czech-jugendstil--other-makers

Note the same shape in my vase and the one from Alfredo's collection, on which he has changed his attribution from Goldberg to Rachmann.

I think this is just the tip of the iceberg, and if a few more of these labels show up, we may finally be able to refine some previous attributions from simply "Haida" to a known maker. Just thought I would get the word out! :)
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Frank on August 14, 2009, 09:59:56 PM
They originally set up in Berlin and later moved to Haida. They had a large and extensive range covering atomisers - over 500 shown in the Glass Catalogue, toilet sets, fancy trinket trays and boxes with metal trims etcetera. Won several medals at various expositions and continued until the end of WW2. Apart from the catalogue I have there is little more than a few adverts and directory listings. I am still trying to contact a relative who has photos of the glassworks.

Any more information appreciated.
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Mike M on August 14, 2009, 10:35:26 PM
Hi

assuming Alfedo is right about his one on his site then I suspect this is one too -but alas no label


cheers

Mike
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Galle on August 14, 2009, 10:48:27 PM
Great vase, Mike! I don't know if it's Rachmann, Goldberg, or what, but I really do like it very much!

Also, thanks to Frank - I didn't realize that you had posted a Rachmann catalog - what a great find! :hiclp:
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Anne on November 03, 2009, 11:38:04 PM
The Rachmann Brothers were murdered in May 1945 by Czech partisans, according to a report dated July 10, 1950 by the brother-in-law of the brothers.

[Link removed whilst it is reviewed by Committee]
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Anne on November 04, 2009, 02:35:20 AM
To add a little more about this company, Rachmann family (glassfabrikants) are listed in the New German Biography, Volume 21 (2003), p. 78  here: http://mdz10.bib-bvb.de/~db/0001/bsb00016339/images/index.html?seite=94 (in German)

There's an interesting Blog (again in German) by a member of the Rachmann family, with some photos of the brothers, their families, and of the glassmakers who worked for them: http://lischke.blogspot.com/  On it I also found a nice advert for Rachmann HERE (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_jqO9sFW_e_I/R-b5rCHe7JI/AAAAAAAAAAU/PTpFZE_NdGI/s1600-h/werbemarke+Br%C3%BCder+Rachmann+20er+Jahre.jpg)
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann and Kralik
Post by: alfredo on November 04, 2009, 01:25:56 PM
I did not even remember I had joined this site!  I have some interesting information concerning the Rachmann Brothers' fate.  I have in my possession a letter by Klaus Von Kralik detailing the destruction of the Kralik glassworks and the rape and killing of family members by Czechs who were avenging the Nazi invasion.  As you probably know, all ethnic Germans (Kralik calls them Bohemian Germans) were expelled from Czech territories after the war.  Much of the glass we call "Czech" was viewed by the Czechs as "German".

And I have received a letter from Oscar Pallme asking me to send him a copy of the Truitt's page on their family's genealogy.  I am trying to ascertain the names of the two designers who created those characteristic PK shapes.

As soon as I learn how to post links, I'll send the PK information.

Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Ohio on November 04, 2009, 07:46:37 PM
I've oftened wondered if this is Goldberg or Rachmann? I originally had it as Goldberg. Its big if nothing else at 16" height. Lousy pic I know, but I was in a hurry. Ken
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Andy on November 05, 2009, 12:16:17 PM
Could i just say a big welcome to Alfredo, great to see you on the glass message board,
Your site and collection is fabulous :thup:
I hope you find this board easy to use, its great fun and your expertise is very welcome!
Cheers
Andy
 ;D
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Sklounion on November 05, 2009, 04:59:25 PM
Hi Alfredo,

Just one note:

Quote
all ethnic Germans (Kralik calls them Bohemian Germans) were expelled from Czech territories after the war.

Not quite accurate, 10% of Sudeten Germans were allowed to remain on the basis of inter-ethnic marriages and other compassionate grounds, others, such as the Nazi sympathiser and vociferous anti-semite, glass entrepreneur Walter Reidel, were rightly treated as war criminals, and held by the Soviet Russian government. It is believed that Rudolf Schroetter, chose to stay, in his position of designer for Sklarny Inwald.

Despite the attempts of heirs of Sudeten Germans, to recover property confiscated as war reparations, during Gerhard Schroeder's last visit to the Czech Republic as German Chancellor, Schroeder renounced all German claims to the disputed property.

Regards,

M
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: parkerhouse777 on July 14, 2018, 08:08:49 AM
They originally set up in Berlin and later moved to Haida. They had a large and extensive range covering atomisers - over 500 shown in the Glass Catalogue, toilet sets, fancy trinket trays and boxes with metal trims etcetera. Won several medals at various expositions and continued until the end of WW2. Apart from the catalogue I have there is little more than a few adverts and directory listings. I am still trying to contact a relative who has photos of the glassworks.

Any more information appreciated.

Frank, I am trying to do research on Rachmann Metallwerks for their perfume atomizers, metal parts as well as glass bottles.
You mentioned "Glass Catalogue"... can you please give me the full name and any information about that catalogue and how I might access the information?
Thanks.
Judy P.
 :)
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Frank on July 14, 2018, 03:14:07 PM
The original is offline due to hackers and I am currently rebuilding it, Rachmann should be done in a couple of weeks and includes the range of separate metal parts. Plus a few examples of their other metals range. As far as I know both metal and glass manufacture were in the same building in Haida.
You can follow progress here http://www.glasscatalogue.com/new/cats/BrRachman/BrRach_A01.html (http://www.glasscatalogue.com/new/cats/BrRachman/BrRach_A01.html)
Note your browser may give you an 'unsafe' warning but the 'new' section of the site is completely safe, the old unsafe part is inaccessible to the public.
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: parkerhouse777 on July 14, 2018, 07:22:55 PM
Thank you, Frank, for your reply and the link.

Along this same subject line, I am also trying to find the metalwork makers of the atomizer and metalware for perfume flacons made by Johann Umann. Do you know of any research or documents on this subject?

Cheers.
Judy P.
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Frank on July 14, 2018, 09:39:52 PM
Apart from entries in trade directories not really, they were a glass refinery (finishers) so much was bought in. Do not appear to have been doing atomisers c1907  Your image I would guess to be 1920/30s when they did much more, including cut glass for lighting and spectacles.
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: parkerhouse777 on July 15, 2018, 06:51:00 PM
Thanks for your reply.
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: parkerhouse777 on July 27, 2018, 03:02:58 AM
They originally set up in Berlin and later moved to Haida. They had a large and extensive range covering atomisers - over 500 shown in the Glass Catalogue, toilet sets, fancy trinket trays and boxes with metal trims etcetera. Won several medals at various expositions and continued until the end of WW2. Apart from the catalogue I have there is little more than a few adverts and directory listings. I am still trying to contact a relative who has photos of the glassworks.

Any more information appreciated.

Frank A. my heart just skipped a beat! Or two! YOU have a catalog from the Rachmann Metallwerks? I have seen the front page of a catalog from 1874 but have never seen the contents. I have been trying to help some of my fellow Intl Perfume Bottle collectors with IDs of atomizers, hardware, etc. Is this catalog available online? Can you give me the link? Or tell me how I might be able to access it?
Thanks in advance.
Judy P.  :D
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: parkerhouse777 on July 27, 2018, 03:07:01 AM
Frank, I am trying to do research on Rachmann Metallwerks for their perfume atomizers, metal parts as well as glass bottles.
You mentioned "Glass Catalogue"... can you please give me the full name and any information about that catalogue and how I might access the information?
Thanks.
Judy P.
 :)

Please excuse my Memory Failure!! I just saw and now recall our discussion on the 14th. Chalk it up to another Senior Moment. :)
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: Frank on July 28, 2018, 06:32:13 PM
Excused :-)
286 items completed on-line so far, note not all links working so just use back key if you hit a not found.
Title: Re: Gebrüder Rachmann, Haida
Post by: parkerhouse777 on July 29, 2018, 02:57:04 AM
Thank you!!  :)