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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: agincourt17 on March 11, 2013, 09:44:28 PM
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Pressed glass decanter, 12 inches tall. RD 728815.
Number not at http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos08.htm
Should have been registered in April 1927.
Is the number in the Blue Book? If so, could some kind GMB member tell me the precise registration details, please?
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Sorry can't help this time the, book goes to 728812 and then jumps to a higher number. ::)
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Thank you for looking anyway, Keith.
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Known as cordial decanters these were posh bottles, possibly sold at Christmas time. Before 1914 they were made in Germany, later Anywhere, Europe, with the designs registered by British factors like JC Cottle. Some had stoppers to match the design, others used standard stoppers, of which yours is the best known. A GMB search on "Cordial Decanters" will reveal others.
A collection of these can be built up quite inexpensively, knowing that you will never find them all as early German examples are quite difficult to find.
Bernard C. 8)
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I will look at the Kew records for this Rd. No., on my next visit Fred.
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Thank you, Bernard. I fully expected this to be a JC Cottle or Jules Lang & Son registration (and, in fact, there are quite a few registrations from both registrants from February 1927 to June 1927) - it just seems odd that this particular number is not in the Blue Book.
Thank you for your offer, Paul. This will probably be another of those miscreant registrations filed under the wrong class, and I await the results of the search with interest.
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would seem I overelooked this one Fred - I knew there was something else you had posted and for which information was required, but obviously it slipped my mind when visiting Kew last week. I will investigate when next I visit TNA - I see it's now on the Lookup list, and so hopefully this will remind me.
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sorry - shoved my note in the wrong place - grateful Anne will you please move to the thread to which this item refers. Thanks.
signed muddled of Surrey.
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Done for you Paul. :)
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Yes, recorded under CLASS 4, which is quite possibly the reason for its absence from the lists.
Kew References are............ for the Representations BT 52/1217...... for the Register BT 53/53.
As you can see, J. C. Cottle were alloted four consecutive Registration Nos. on 14th April 1927 - two were certainly moulded decanters - Nos. 728812 and 728815 for which pix are provided here..........but it seems that images in the Representations book for 728813 and 728814 have been lost/mislaid. Off hand I don't recall whether we've had pix of these missing ones on the Board previously, or not. It's an intriguing situation to ponder.............if someone here does have pix, do we offer hard copies to TNA for their records, or would that be considered inappropriate?? (by them or us).
These missing Nos. might not be more moulded decanters, but I'd have thought it quite likely they were - pity the Register doesn't describe the item.
If a previously 'posted' Registration No. is put into the Board's search, does it automatically come up?
See next post for remainder of pix.
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three further pix.
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Thank you once (or is it twice?) more, Paul.
More queries definitively answered and gaps filled. Nice to see that the photos I posted had the 'correct' stoppers as per the registration representations.
As to RDs 728813 and 728814 - I don't have any photo references, and there are none on the GMB RD database.