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Title: Dino Martens signature
Post by: bakonychris on March 04, 2007, 08:14:09 AM

Hi,
I've bought a 'Dino Martens' Vase with a etched signature at the bottom.
No I don't know is it real or a fake.
Has sonmeone a photo (of a item or from a glassbook) of the signature?
If necessary I can take also take a photo of my vase.
Thanks all for help.
Many greetings from Germany
Chris

I've put a photo to the glass queries.
Mod:  GlassGallery link added:
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5423

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: Laura Friedman on March 05, 2007, 05:29:44 AM

Hello Chris,

Neither the vase nor the signature look right to me. Are you sure it's Dino Martens that you think it's signed with? It's odd that it's also signed '02 (2002).

I've never heard of any piece signed by Martens, and this does not look like any of his designs.

Laura

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: Anne on March 05, 2007, 06:57:08 AM

I thought the figure looked more like 62 than 02 Laura?

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: svazzo on March 05, 2007, 08:08:16 AM

I also think it says '02
and the design doesnt look familiar to Dino Martens.

Javier

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: Della on March 05, 2007, 08:33:38 AM

Quote from: Anne on March 05, 2007, 06:57:08 AM

I thought the figure looked more like 62 than 02 Laura?

Looks like 62 to me too, Anne.

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: Cathy B on March 05, 2007, 10:41:10 AM

If you click on the enlargement, it definitely says '62. But the vase looks mass produced 07.

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: svazzo on March 05, 2007, 11:22:45 AM

Well, I took a look at the enlargement and still think its 02, lol
The top of the "6" looks too thin, like its another scratch on the bottom....
At any rate, I agree this vase looks very new, and the signature is more than suspect.
I havent seen any Dino Martens signatures, not even on his book.

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: bakonychris on March 05, 2007, 01:56:23 PM

Thanks for all answers.
1.  The signature reads:
     Dino Martens   and definatly 62 (sorry for the bad photo)
2.  Didn't Martens make some vases with murrines at this time? I thought I've seen similiar somewhere.

Chris

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: Ivo on March 05, 2007, 05:03:05 PM

I would think the vase is contemporary Chinese and the signature a fantasy. Both the technique (engraved instead of diamond point) and the writing itself (rounded linked script) are wrong. 

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: Artofvenice on March 06, 2007, 03:33:29 PM

The vase isn't a classic of Martens for sure. For what I have seen and read the Marten's vases were normally unsigned, at least the classic ones (Oriente, etc.)
I really think that it is just a fake. Sorry

Alex

www.artofvenice.com (http://www.artofvenice.com)

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: chuggy on March 11, 2007, 08:22:15 PM

I've collected Martens for many years and this is about as fake as they come. I've only ever seen one signed piece and that was a one off exhibited in Venice in the 1950's. I'm afraid I must agree with the far east as the origin of this vase with signature added elsewhere.
Paul

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: aa on March 11, 2007, 08:33:53 PM

I hope you didn't pay much for it.

Title: Re: Dino Martens signature
Post by: Joschua on May 20, 2007, 05:54:24 PM

I do agree that this is neither Corrado "Dino" Martens, nor Aureliano Toso. The vase could even be a little older and of different origin than the far east and some "clever" person tried to engrave Dino Martens on it to increase it's value.

Regards

Joschua