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Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Glassyone on September 24, 2005, 06:30:48 AM
I am not even sure that he is made from glass! And his eyes are grotesque. The rest of him has been in the wars. He does have a stand to rest on.  

But he must be glass there is nothing else that I can think of, that would have his qualities.
http://tinypic.com/dy50jo.jpg
http://tinypic.com/dy50lx.jpg

I go for patte de verre but am prepared to fall flat in my face here!

The blue only shows itself when the light falls at the right angle.
T'was for that reason that I was enchanted and so possess a bashed fish, with barely a fin to stand on.
Ruth
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Tigerchips on September 24, 2005, 06:45:02 AM
Perhaps it's a mineral like "Blue John".

Though it's eye's look like glass so perhaps the rest is glass.

I love it. Where did you catch it?  :roll:
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Max on September 24, 2005, 10:12:16 AM
It's a lovely fishy Ruth.  It looks rather like blue pearl granite to me.  I'd have said this is what it is, but I'm not sure you can carve granite into something this fine...  :?
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Anonymous on September 24, 2005, 11:01:31 AM
Hi Ruth

Well spotted, Max. I'd vote for blue pearl granite, too.

http://www.crystalfantasy.co.uk/html/animals.html
http://www.cst.cmich.edu/users/dietr1rv/larvikite.htm

Cathy B
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Max on September 24, 2005, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: "Anonymous"
Hi Ruth

Well spotted, Max. I'd vote for blue pearl granite, too.

http://www.crystalfantasy.co.uk/html/animals.html
http://www.cst.cmich.edu/users/dietr1rv/larvikite.htm

Cathy B


I only know because we almost had that for our worktops, I think it's beautiful.    :D
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: mrvaselineglass on September 24, 2005, 01:01:35 PM
try this test.....
pick it up....does it feel cold in your hands (as in, colder than your hands)?
If yes, it is probably a mineral/rock.
Dave
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Leni on September 24, 2005, 03:43:17 PM
Dare I say it?   :shock:  :oops:  :roll: Tap it (gently) on your teeth.  IMHO glass feels different from anything else!   :shock:

OTOH, maybe it's just me who can feel the difference between glass, plastic, minerals, etc. by 'biting'  it :oops:  :roll:  :oops:

OK, I'm a 'nutter' - IGMC  :oops:

Leni
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 24, 2005, 04:23:44 PM
:D:D:D
Funnily enough I bought a Labradorite necklet in Portobello Road when I was in London last Saturday, was given a piece of blue pearlite granite by a friend on Monday and ordered my dark green pearlite worktops this morning. When I get all three examples together, I will post a picture of them. My vote for this fish is the mineral Labradorite, which is not the same as the pearlite granite worktop stuff, (I don't think, anyway! :? )
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Anonymous on September 27, 2005, 05:41:32 AM
Yes, he feels cold. My teeth are not sensitive in a useful way!  

He does not look quite like the other items displayed but having seem them, I am prepared to concede that he is, carved from rock. The like of which I have not seem before, other than having encountered 'Blue John' in a previous life.

 The maker got him just right, apart from the sinous suggestion of movement, in certain lights he is ordinary, of earthy/marine colours. When the light hits there is the most surprisingly intense pale blue lights up, just as fish scales do.    

I think he is a carp and I am wondering in which country he came from but that is another quest and a different Board perhaps!
Thanks for your help and I know what kind of work benches I want in my kitchen next.
Ruth
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: pamela on September 27, 2005, 07:23:33 PM
DEFINITELY IT IS LABRADORIT - China? or Norway?
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: pamela on September 27, 2005, 07:25:28 PM
glassy eyes would confirm China imho
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Ivo on September 27, 2005, 08:03:47 PM
My inhouse geologist suggests:
http://www.cst.cmich.edu/users/dietr1rv/larvikite.htm
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Glassyone on September 27, 2005, 08:09:32 PM
Pamela, the eyes have me curious too, they could be glass or porcelain.
I will have another look when it gets light. What does imho stand for?

I am going to google labradorit some more now!  cheers Ruth
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Anne on September 27, 2005, 10:03:24 PM
IMHO = in my humble opinion
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Anonymous on September 28, 2005, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: "Ivo"
My inhouse geologist suggests:
http://www.cst.cmich.edu/users/dietr1rv/larvikite.htm


larvikite = Norwegian Blue Pearl Granite
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Leni on September 28, 2005, 10:19:16 AM
Quote from: "Anonymous"
Norwegian Blue

Lovely plumage!  :shock:

Leni  :lol:
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: pamela on September 28, 2005, 07:56:41 PM
Leni: I join you and your testing method of materials - it always works! Normally a touch does...
Ruth and all here: Labradorit is too soft (Mohs-Haerte) for being Granit and I bet your fish is 'Feldspat = Labradorit' which can be easily carved like that.
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Ivo on September 28, 2005, 08:51:42 PM
sorry not granite - check the Larvikite technical reference for all variants and names it goes by.
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Glassyone on September 29, 2005, 06:58:57 AM
I'm googled out and reckon that labradorite it is. Larkivite has some similar properties but does not quite fit, despite #

Labradorite
# Receptive
# Element: Air/Spirit
# Projection, shapeshifting, celestial energy, astral magick.

Larkivite
# Projective
# Element: Water
# Darkness, rain, shadows...strange deep energy, similar to labradorite but grounding, rather than ascendant.

http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/minerals/labradorite.htm
This is him.
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2005, 07:08:02 AM
I give up - science lost.
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Glassyone on September 29, 2005, 07:42:16 AM
No, despite the other stuff, which is just a google along the way and was in favour of larkivite being waterly ! Just a diversion.

The link under that convinced me. That is how it looks, in shadow and in light.

r, a scientist, well, sort of, on a good day, perhaps, omg need therapy.  Time for a holiday! In Labrador would be nice, with a hammer.
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2005, 08:58:02 AM
guess what the official name for Labradorite is? No prizes as the answer was made available early on in this thread.
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Leni on September 29, 2005, 09:49:10 AM
Quote from: "Anonymous"
guess what the official name for Labradorite is? No prizes as the answer was made available early on in this thread.

It's Feldspar!   :D  Why no prize?  :(  I want a prize!  :x  Pamela spelt it wrong, anyway  :evil:

Leni   :wink:
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: pamela on September 29, 2005, 08:12:21 PM
sorry Leni, I did not spell wrong but did not know the English spelling: feldspar (E) is feldspat (G)
If I do not know the right translation E/G here - I dare to submit German and reckognize that everybody understands - like Anorak  8)  :lol:  :P
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Anonymous on September 29, 2005, 08:46:30 PM
Quote from: "Leni"

It's Feldspar!   :D  Why no prize?  :(  I want a prize!  :x  
Leni   :wink:


Sorry Leni, no gain - the answer is Larvikite.
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 05, 2005, 06:12:29 PM
:D:D:D
Here are the promised pictures of my larkovite and labradorite.
"dark emerald pearl granite", (the big piece)
"light blue pearl granite" (the small sliver) and
labradorite (the pendant - both cabochons)

It is hard to capture their true beauty on camera, particularly the labradorite, but should be enough for you to decide about your fish!

http://tinypic.com/e9u8uv.jpg
http://tinypic.com/e9ua8p.jpg
http://tinypic.com/e9uadx.jpg
Title: poor battered fish
Post by: Glassyone on October 05, 2005, 06:27:39 PM
Many thanks, it is labradorite.
I also went to a crystal shop and had a look round and it all convinces me that's what it is. Now I just need to find out when and where it was made.
Cheers Ruth.