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Title: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: keith on September 14, 2013, 12:14:33 PM
With all the interest on another post at the moment thought I'd post these,pretty sure they are all Welz,anyone disagree ? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: glassobsessed on September 14, 2013, 03:15:33 PM
The one that sticks out Keith is the very first, left hand side first photo. It would be nice if it was Welz, I have one to match plus two more in different colours and another with a different shape.

John

Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: keith on September 14, 2013, 07:18:00 PM
Thanks John,wasn't to sure myself about that one, ;D there's a couple more somewhere... ;D
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: antiquerose123 on September 14, 2013, 08:17:53 PM
Wow Keith, Good Eye................rrr............ I mean EYES!! NICE  8)
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: keith on September 14, 2013, 11:34:23 PM
Thanks Rose, ;D ;D although now I have to remember to take my glasses when I'm out buying! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: obscurities on September 15, 2013, 12:23:02 AM
Pic 1 Vase 1 - That shape, at least I think it is that shape and possibly the same decor was shown in the Tango exhibit. at 41 seconds into the video in the link below it is in the far back right of the shot. I believe it is in a different case with a separate tag than the Welz items.  I have not successfully linked the decor to Welz at this point. Although the entire base can not be seen, the shoulder of this shape is quite distinctive and I have only seen it in this one form, and in several different decors, but none confirmed as Welz.

http://multimedia.ctk.cz/cs/video/document/6383477/regionalni-muzeum-teplice-predstavuje-tango-sklo

Pic 2 Pink striped basket.  I am leery of many of these attributions as the style of basket was made by quite a few houses I think....
Pic 2 Trophy Vase - A decor I do not remember seeing on one of these - nice

Pic 3 Middle piece - Not sure on this either....  I do not have a record of this shape in another decor I am sure of as Welz.

Pic 4 last piece - This is the same shape as the one link to Daniel Griffiths piece in pink and green with the tri-fin foot. To me this piece in Harlequin Honeycomb would confirm the other piece in pink and green as being Welz.

With that said, it also strengthens the possibility that the foot style with the three upright fins may be a marker for Welz production. 

Love the selection of pieces there....  really love the last two......  I had only seen the middle one in the last pic in solid colors and simple variegated decors. The addition of Honeycomb to that list strengthens the attribution IMHO....

Thanks Keith......

Maybe you could add a shot of the last piece  to the other thread.....  :-)

Great stuff....  You have been holding out on me.....  :-)

Craig
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: obscurities on September 15, 2013, 12:44:27 AM
OK....  I will add a couple more... recent acquisitions for me...

 ;D

Craig
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: flying free on September 15, 2013, 11:13:50 AM
love the pale orange and red :)
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: dirk. on September 15, 2013, 12:01:16 PM
Both of you...  Cool pieces!  :)
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: keith on September 15, 2013, 12:43:32 PM
Last two pic's,will add to other thread,if you want any larger pictures of any particular piece just let me know, ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: obscurities on September 15, 2013, 02:51:30 PM
M, Oddly, that shape is the only shape I have seen the decor on. I have found about a dozen different decors on that shape by them...  and only in the one size, which is just over 4 inches tall. I had a really nice blue one in two shades of blue which I lost in my shelving collapse...  and a couple of other decors also...

Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: vetraio50 on January 29, 2014, 02:58:28 AM
Craig mentioned:
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Pic 1 Vase 1 - That shape, at least I think it is that shape and possibly the same decor was shown in the Tango exhibit. at 41 seconds into the video in the link below it is in the far back right of the shot. I believe it is in a different case with a separate tag than the Welz items.  I have not successfully linked the decor to Welz at this point. Although the entire base can not be seen, the shoulder of this shape is quite distinctive and I have only seen it in this one form, and in several different decors, but none confirmed as Welz."

http://multimedia.ctk.cz/cs/video/document/6383477/regionalni-muzeum-teplice-predstavuje-tango-sklo

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I think I have found the vase he is referring to in the video of the Tango exhibition at Regionální muzeum v Teplicích (27 January – 4 March 2012)


It is among some pix taken by Dirk at the Novy Bor exhibition of TangoSklo Proměny barevných kontrastů.

They were taken some months earlier than the video in August 2011.

You can see the vase here:
https://picasaweb.google.com/108140812446658939096/CzechTrip?authkey=Gv1sRgCNz6s9vqyMSeRQ#5643730253067267730

There are actually two vases .... slightly different.
There's a red one "A" and blue "B" (see below).
Yours is the one on the left. "A"

They seem to be in a group which at that stage was part of the Rückl cabinets.
There is another photo of it here again by Dirk:
https://picasaweb.google.com/108140812446658939096/CzechTrip?authkey=Gv1sRgCNz6s9vqyMSeRQ#5643939852839344082

Some of the attributions seemed to have changed.
By the time it got to Teplice it "A" was no longer with the Rückl pieces.
The similar blue vase "B" was still with the Rückl pieces.

As Craig mentions your vase was in a cabinet to the right of the Welz and Tomschick pieces.

Tantalyzing cabinet is that one!
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: keith on January 29, 2014, 01:33:54 PM
Thanks for that,some great pieces in those cabinets, ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welz,Welz,Welz?
Post by: dirk. on January 29, 2014, 09:57:38 PM
Many thanks - well spotted!  :)