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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Paperweights => Topic started by: Della on January 26, 2006, 09:29:58 AM

Title: European?
Post by: Della on January 26, 2006, 09:29:58 AM

I got this yesterday. Very tired looking, but I don't think this one is Chinese.    

Leni :?:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/oldpw1.jpg

The base is totally unlike any of my Chinese weights.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/albums/userpics/10026/oldpw.jpg

Thanks.

Title: European?
Post by: Leni on January 26, 2006, 09:39:05 AM

That's very 'tired looking'  :oops:  :roll:  :wink:

No idea where from, though  :shock:   I'd have said possibly Hyderobad from the blobby dots of colour, but on the other hand it looks a bit like an 'experimental' one - somebody 'having a go' at paperweight making!  Could be anyone, in that case!   :roll:  

But I agree it doesn't look Chinese from the base  :?

On the other hand, somebody Chinese could have just not bothered to grind the base flat, because it was not exactly their best effort!   :oops: (What am I saying?  If it was Chinese they'd probably have finished it as usual and sent it out for sale anyway!   :roll:  :lol: )

Title: European?
Post by: Della on January 26, 2006, 09:56:33 AM

Thanks Leni.
 :wink:
I think the previous owner must have let the kids use it as a marble, although having said that it is only 'grainy' around the base.
The lady I bought it from said that she thought it was from Belgium.
As yet I don't have any books on paperweights, they are on my list of things to get, but I think that I will have to sell some of my vases etc. first.
I know some people are of the opinion that one should invest in 1 decent paperweight, but I want to get the 'feel' of the cheaper weights first.

Title: European?
Post by: Leni on January 26, 2006, 10:48:25 AM

If you only get one good book on paperweights I would recommend Sibylle Jargstorf's 'Paperweights'.  It's not cheap, but I got mine second-hand, so it wasn't too bad.  It's a beautiful book and covers many different styles and areas of paperweight making.  

If you decide to specialise in a particular style of weight there are other books I would recommend, but I still like the Jargstorf.  

I agree about getting the 'feel' through collecting cheaper weights at first.  Are you drawn to millefiori, lampwork, crimp flowers, or abstract weights?  

If you like millefiori it is a good idea to start with some little John Deacons or Peter McDougall's, which are superb work and great value for money, and also look for Perthshire and Strathearn, for the different styles and types of cane.  You can move on to Clichy, Baccarat, and Ysart later!  :lol:

I have a large collection if crimp flower weights, (mostly Chinese, as you know) and some are very pretty and well made.  

Lampwork is not cheap, but the older Chinese weights can still be picked up at reasonable prices, and show amongst other things, the problems and difficulties involved in the construction!   :wink:

Abstracts range from the wonderful Selkirk and Caithness examples, which can still be had for reasonable money, through Scandinavian, to  'Bohemian', modern Chinese or Indian, etc.  Some Royal Crest are very good, but the quality control is perhaps a little less rigorous than in the Scottish weights.  

Good Luck with your collecting!  The good thing about paperweights is that they take up less space than other glass - until you get to the quantities I have, that is!  :oops:  :roll:  :lol:

Title: European?
Post by: Della on January 26, 2006, 01:27:29 PM

Thank you so much Leni. I have found the book you recomend on Amazon, I just have to look into the postage costs, or I could have it sent (free) to my daughter in the UK and she can bring it with her in April.

I am not drawn to any particular type of paperweight, although I do love millefiori and lampwork, but it is the skill involved in the making of them that has me enthralled. One day I hope I will mange to see one being made.

I have been following the thread about John Deacons paperweights and you are right, he does produce beautiful work.
I noticed that his son joined the board yesterday and I do hope he stays too.

I just wish I lived in the UK or had tons of money so that I could go to some of the Glass Fairs mentioned in Glass Events & Announcements.  :cry:  :cry:

Title: European?
Post by: RAY on January 26, 2006, 06:42:34 PM

it looks like a Bohemian piece

Title: European?
Post by: Leni on January 26, 2006, 06:57:31 PM

What sort of age would you say, Ray?

Title: European?
Post by: RAY on January 26, 2006, 07:23:14 PM

around the `1930's

Title: European?
Post by: Della on January 27, 2006, 12:07:46 PM

Thank you Ray.
I will "Google" in that direction.

Title: European?
Post by: dreamticket2 on January 27, 2006, 02:33:08 PM

I have found ALIBRIS very good as a source for new or second hand books.
very fast to here in the UK
Happy Hunting.
jean

http://www.alibris.com/search/books/author/Sibylle%20Jargstorf

 :)

Title: European?
Post by: Della on January 27, 2006, 02:37:03 PM

Hi Jean,
Thanks for your time and trouble and for the link. :wink: