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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Murano & Italy Glass => Topic started by: Nancy128 on January 11, 2006, 01:58:10 AM

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: Nancy128 on January 11, 2006, 01:58:10 AM

Hi everyone, hope y'all had a great holiday season.  Now it's back to work and going to estate sales.  I wish everyone much luck in finding glass in the new year!!

Here's a vase or decanter that has a sticker that probably says "Made in Italy" and was wondering if this could be a piece of quality or just the everyday tourist glass.  My Mom gave this to me after a trip to Italy back in the early 70s.

The base is concave and smooth.

http://tinypic.com/k1rh46.jpg
http://tinypic.com/k1rkoj.jpg

Thanks for your help!

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: David555 on January 12, 2006, 01:21:18 AM

I have a picture in a book that is very similar to your decanter/bottle - it is in blue and is shown in set with a water jug and four goblets of similar form.

It is by Salviati & C. under the section 'Table Sets' c1950s. I am thinking this is a reach as I don't associate the label with Salviati, although I am less familiar with their domestic or table glass.

At the very least it shows that your item was more functional than at first thought even if not by this maker.

(http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/2769/sal7dk.th.jpg) (http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sal7dk.jpg)

Adam P

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: svazzo on January 12, 2006, 02:19:12 AM

Hello Nancy,
Thank you for your post.
By the look of it, Tuscany and Guildcraft companies come to mind.
They are Italian, but I havent seen much documentation from them.
Hope someone can shine some light on it.
Javier

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: Nancy128 on January 12, 2006, 02:37:25 PM

Thanks for your replies.  I'll ask my Mom where she might have bought it in Italy, but it has been 30 plus years and I don't know whether she'll remember.
Nancy

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: Ivo on April 12, 2006, 09:07:33 PM

I think I have something quite similar by IVV - same stopper, same twisted foot - except a clear body. Which would tie in with the "made in Italy" sticker

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: David555 on April 13, 2006, 12:03:34 AM

Hi

This decanter is different in some ways but the label seems very similar on this. I posted a month or so ago on striped Italian glass thread -

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6567/reddec4xy.th.jpg) (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=reddec4xy.jpg)

I never got a good picture of the label (photograph at my local dealer) - it was raised silver foil (paper backed) with red slightly worn away and had the same outer shape as the posted label.

Adam P

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: Ivo on April 13, 2006, 05:59:26 AM

Are you sure that the stopper and the body go together?

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: David555 on April 13, 2006, 12:40:39 PM

That is a good question  :?
 
As I said the decanter was never mine, I took the picture at a local dealer and did not have time to examine it that well (it has since sold)

I agree with you Ivo, the stopper does look somewhat incongruous
 
I think Anne E.B. has or had the same decanter with a white stopper - posted below (the pictures have since disappeared.
 
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,1824.0.html
 
The main thread on striped Italian glass emanated from this thread.
 
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,4261.msg33999.html#msg33999


Adam P

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: Anne E.B. on April 13, 2006, 04:18:51 PM

Adam - here's a pic. of my decanter :P
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y195/glassie/misc146.jpg

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: David555 on April 13, 2006, 04:49:46 PM

Thanks Anne

It's a different shape but the stopper is same as on mine - I think they are the same maker taking into account the striped body.

So it seems that the decanter stoppers are correct - I think the white was to pick up the swirling white stripe on the main body.

Adam P

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: Anne E.B. on April 13, 2006, 06:03:08 PM

I agree Adam.  I've also seen identical decanters as mine in a different colour, with the white stripe and same matching stopper.  I believe there's a picture of one in one of Leslie Pina's books ("50s Glass"??? I think).

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Correction: "Italian Glass" p.117

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: Ivo on April 13, 2006, 08:42:22 PM

I was suggesting it could be a mariage because the pressed stopper seems to be identical to the one used on the ubiquitous "Genii" bottle which is from Empoli or the adjacent valley; but it might just as well be a bought-in addition to the blown decanter - there seems to be a discrepancy of techniques between the two.

Title: Sticker Says Made in Italy.... = IVV
Post by: Anne E.B. on April 13, 2006, 09:00:33 PM

Quote from: "Ivo"

but it might just as well be a bought-in addition to the blown decanter - there seems to be a discrepancy of techniques between the two.

A bit like a "universal" stopper made to fit different decanters but from the same source :P   I guess that would have been cheaper too to make rather than handblown stoppers?