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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass Trinket Sets => Topic started by: wy699usa on December 18, 2020, 11:28:15 PM
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I have got this set (not sure if it is a set), and I cannot find it from the trinket set website, it is not listed as one of the mystery set. Please let me know what you think about this. The closest one is Walter Roland (2) for the tray, but the pots are different and candlesticks are different as well.
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It has more the look of the Libochovice 1700 and 1760 sets but I can't identify it, also the detail of the pot isn't clear as it is slightly out of focus. As mentioned on this site before a lot of these sets are "mix and match".
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I agree with NevB, I think it's a mix and match "set" - the tray and pots look like Libochovice 1700 but the candlesticks are different. Clearer photos against a plain white background might help us though. See the 1700 set here for comparison https://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms3/czechoslovakian/libochovice/1700
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The shades of green don't match either
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I rarely wander into the Trinkets forum, but ... I agree with Christine's comment.
If it were a full set, with all pieces made at very close to the same time, then the shades of green would not differ significantly. Perhaps. Maybe. Probably.
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The pots look like Libochovice 1700, but the tray isn't 1700 which has an elongated hexagon design around the edge. The candlesticks look similar in style to 1700 and 1760 but are not a known pattern.
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I've been finding more of these "sets" on ebay recently and since almost making a bid on a "set" that on closer inspection was parts of two different sets, now look very closely. I was nearly taken-in as it was made up of parts of the UK? set with the flower finials and stems of the candle holders plus pieces from an unknown set with octagonal? finials / candle holder stems with flowers moulded into the flat faces.
Some sellers these days, as finding the correct pieces to make up genuine sets becomes more difficult, are quite shamelessly putting things together that are obviously not from the same set, but saying they are "a set". One "Five piece dressing table set" I came across consisted of a large tray, two pots (without lids, from a different set). One candlestick (from a third set) and a Hermanova bud-trough.
Sadly, it seems that the days are gone (or at least going) when sellers knew what they were selling. Even trying to research and find the correct info. seems to be too much trouble for some. It seems that increasingly, any real interest in what they are selling takes second place to how quickly they can sell it. :(
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Mixed sets have been common in antique centres for a long time now, so I don't think it's anything new.
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I wasn't saying that mixed sets are anything new, I too have been seeing them around for years. But I do think they are becoming more common as it becomes more difficult to find the correct pieces. Particularly on ebay, they seem to be on the increase. To the point where caution is required all the time with anything described as a "Set".
I don't think that was always the case, not long ago if several pieces were described as a set, they could overwhelmingly be relied on to at least be parts of the same set. Much less reliably so, these days, in my view.
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That's exactly why I started to create the Glass Trinket Sets website.
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Many thanks for so many comments and advice on this. All are really helpful for newbies like me. I really enjoyed the website set up by Anne, really helped me a lot these days. Happy New Year everyone!
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I have got this set (not sure if it is a set), and I cannot find it from the trinket set website, it is not listed as one of the mystery set. Please let me know what you think about this. The closest one is Walter Roland (2) for the tray, but the pots are different and candlesticks are different as well.
The candlesticks appear to be Walther Romeo 1933 (Rheingold 1931):
https://www.glasstrinketsets.com/cms3/german/walther/romeo
https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Walther-1931.116+B6YmFja1BJRD0xMTYmcHJvZHVjdElEPTUxNjYmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTE2JmRldGFpbD0_.0.html
I have now seen all the other pieces in your set with the Romeo candlesticks 6 times including yours, so 3 uranium, 2 pink 1 clear. Therefore I believe it could well be a set.
I have been discussing these pieces in a blue 'set' but with different candlesticks on another topic here:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,69719.msg401680.html#msg401680
I have also seen the set several times with the Walther Prismen style candlesticks.