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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: rocco on August 12, 2012, 04:33:05 PM

Title: ZBS vase by Miloslav Klinger / Josef Cvrcek - show and tell and question
Post by: rocco on August 12, 2012, 04:33:05 PM
Back from a fabulous holiday in Croatia, a fabulous piece of glass for my Czech collection:

ZBS vase by Miloslav Klinger / Josef Cvrcek (still not definate I guess) in citrine and brown glass, PN 70214 or 20866 (?), a whopping 35 cm high -- much bigger and more impressive than I had expected...

Question: does the pattern number refer to the year of design (1970)? If not -- when was it designed?

Thanks,
Michael
Title: Re: ZBS vase by Miloslav Klinger / Josef Cvrcek - show and tell and question
Post by: Anik R on August 12, 2012, 04:47:11 PM
Hi Michael... according to Jindrich's "Ceskoslovenske Sklo" DVD database, the designer of this piece is Josef Cvrček and the pattern number is 70214.  I don't think ZBS pattern numbers contain dates. It's a great vase, by the way.  Lovely find!

P.S.  Where in Croatia were you?  It's a beautiful country.
Title: Re: ZBS vase by Miloslav Klinger / Josef Cvrcek - show and tell and question
Post by: rocco on August 12, 2012, 05:44:20 PM
Thanks Anik!
I found the other pattern number (20866) in CGR 1984/3 (https://picasaweb.google.com/104509467784289017506/Glasrevue1984302?authkey=Gv1sRgCKHti6GjmKGzSg&noredirect=1#5514154403675458418), where Klinger is mentioned as the designer; so still quite confusing.

I was curious about the year of design, as I can't find it anywhere; not even Mark Hill mentions it in his book...

Michael

PS: we spent our holiday in Dubrovnik, in a nice appartment with private pool terrace overlooking the beautiful old town 8)
Title: Re: ZBS vase by Miloslav Klinger / Josef Cvrcek - show and tell and question
Post by: Anik R on August 12, 2012, 06:13:11 PM
Ah, so it is confusing.   :-\

Over the past few years, we've become more knowledgeable about the SU factories thanks to Marcus Newhall.  Mark Hill has offered us a general (but wonderful) glimpse into the Hi's and Lo's of Czech glass.  Jindrich has selflessly given us a world of information regarding Czech sklo through his website, and has shared fascinating information about a number of designers, not least Frantisek Vizner.  Robert (bOBA) has opened our eyes to the beauty and wonders of Skrdlovice... We need someone to take on the mysteries of ZBS.


P.S.  I spent a couple hours in Dubrovnik last year, but felt so overwhelmed by the massive crowds, I couldn't enjoy the city. :(   I'm glad to hear you enjoyed your stay, though!
Title: Re: ZBS vase by Miloslav Klinger / Josef Cvrcek - show and tell and question
Post by: rocco on August 12, 2012, 09:09:53 PM
In an older thread I found a post by Jindrich stating that the ZBS pattern books have been bought by a collector and thus will not be lost; so maybe some of the mysteries will be uncovered one day.

P.S. As we were looking at Dubrovnik and the whole bay from faaar above (400 steps ;D), no crowds could spoil the beauty of the place. And though the old town was quite crowded, it seemed almost empty in comparison to Zadar where we spent one night on our way there...
Title: Re: ZBS vase by Miloslav Klinger / Josef Cvrcek - show and tell and question
Post by: flying free on August 21, 2012, 08:16:01 AM
beautiful piece Rocco  :)
off topic slightly but I can highly recommend Rovinj.  We stayed at a hotel on an island off Rovinj reached by local ferry - had an absolutely wonderful holiday. I  loved Croatia and we'll definitely go back.
m
Title: Re: ZBS vase by Miloslav Klinger / Josef Cvrcek - show and tell and question
Post by: rocco on August 21, 2012, 03:42:01 PM
Thanks m!
The vase was much harder to come across than I had thought, so I am very pleased (especially with having found this very tall specimen).

OT: I spent all my childhood holidays in Croatia / then Yugoslavia (no wonder coming from the south of Austria, only 50 km away from the border), and always loved it. :)

Michael