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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: selina on July 24, 2007, 08:23:18 AM
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Hi all,
Picked up these glasses today. I think they are about 70's. Ive been checking out Whitefriars sites and am still not sure if they would be considered theirs or not. They measure just under 4 inches in height and the top width is 2 1/4 inches. They arent very big. Light amber colour. Ive never seen Whitefriars or held it so its hard to judge and I wasnt sure which other companies did that textured style.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8027 glasses
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8026 base
Trudy
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I think they're Ravenhead. Maybe related to 'Vista'
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-1820
ChopinLiszt or HeidiMin might know. :)
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Or even me! ;D
Ravenhead Nevada, came in amber and turquoise (don't know if they did other colours too) and at least three sizes shapes that I know of. I have the same glasses in two sizes - your size and the smaller ones:
examples of both colours here: http://www.yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/thumbnails.php?album=69
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Thanks so much!!
Thats the first time Ive ever heard of Ravenhead. Now Im actually going to list with confidence. But I am going to use the dreaded Retro word...lol And I guess I would describe them as textured...
Trudy
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Trudy, I think 'retro' is fine, although some might not agree. ;) Textured is correct too.
I have to say that you'd probably be better off enjoying and using them yourself, or keeping them to sell in a year or so. Just my opinion, but they might not raise much money if you try to sell them. :'(
I'd be very happy to be proved wrong though. :)
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Max, Most of my things only sell for small prices :) Im still waiting for my big 'find'.
Hopefully they will sell for more than I paid...that keeps me happy. Its about the only way I can keep my end up and have money coming in. All the little profits add up.
Retro is a popular thing here at the moment so they might sell okay....then again, they are cute..Trouble is I keep on keeping all the cute, nice, gorgeous, retro..you name it. I dont think Ive parted with anything lately.. I really must work out what Im collecting!! ::)
Trudy
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Isn't that interesting! I immediately just assumed Anchor Hocking Lido.
http://www.pixclix.com/glassproject/patterninfo.asp?ID=12
http://home.comcast.net/~mfreier/lido.htm
They aren't are they?
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Hmm okay, now Im in a dilemma!!
I really cant tell between the two!!
The only thing that is maybe leaning towards the Anchor Hocking is the kind of rough pattern under the texture. And on mine, at the top of the glass the raised textured bits finish approx 1/4 of an inch before the top of the glass..and the rough pattern covers the rest.
Ive taken a pic which shows it up a lot better.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-8028
The Hocking ones 'seem' to have that...
Trudy
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I really don't know, Trudy!
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Anne & Max are right - they're definitely Ravenhead - I have a boxed set.
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They're not Ravenhead, cos Anne's Ravenhead glasses don't have the stippling under the rim like Trudy's and AH's. Looks like Anchor Hocking gets it. It also seems more likely for glasses found in Australia
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Sorry Christine - at first glance they're incredibly similar - I've just scritinised Trudy's original photo and there does appear to be stippling to the top. I also didn't realise Trudy was in Oz (Trudy could you add your location so it shows on your postings - it's always helpful). I've had my wristies well and truly slapped Christine :-[
ooooh and this was my 1000th posting as well!
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Oooer! As Christine says, it looks like CathyB is right! :clap: :D
I didn't realise Trudy was in Australia either. Nevermind though, because that's another piece of information tucked away for us. Thanks GMB!
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Wow fascinating! The tumblers are almost the same. Cathy, do you have sizes for the AH ones please as Trudy's are the same size as my Ravenhead ones (I checked that before my earlier post.)
I wasn't sure from the photo if Trudy's are stippled or if it's the background behind showing through.
BTW the feet on the AH wine goblets are not the same as those of the Ravenhead ones - the Ravenhead ones are flatter aren't they?
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It was just that I wouldn't have even given Ravenshead a thought - so it's a lesson for me as well. There's also a possibility that they might be some other lookalike! I guess that especially in that low end of the market (no offence meant to anyone), similar patterns are pretty common.
Does anyone else see differences in the ripples of the patterns though? Ravenshead seems to be less ice-like and more fluid--mind, this is working from the photographs.
Anne, I'm not sure about what sizes they came in - they're not in any of my US books (which cover earlier periods). I've only handled them once, and then I decided not to buy them! Shame Connie has disappeared - she could have helped.
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Thanks for all that help everyone. I didnt reply straight away as I was in la la land :sleep:
I thought I had put where I was from?? It seems to have disappeared..maybe I didnt do it correctly.
We do see a fair bit of Anchor Hocking over here so big chances that it is that.
Interesting to read all the advice and Ive now been introduced to another maker. :)
Trudy
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Thanks again..okay, have done that..this is the tester.
Trudy
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Hi, everyone.
Coming a bit late to the party - travel and family stuff...
David sent me an article from Pottery Gazette in 1970 announcing the launch of the Ravenhead Vista range. It came in two colours, "a rich turquoise" and "amber-gold". (I think this was the first time Ravenhead had used coloured glass.) The tumblers came in three shapes, each in three sizes, Angel (cylindrical with a hobnail base), Venice (curved conical with heavy base) and Nevada (textured cylindrical), and there were also bowls, dishes, ashtrays and a water set.
The range was designed by Alexander Hardie Williamson, and the glasses were sold in special packs designed by consultant designer David Harris: “echoing the Vista name, tumblers are arranged in sets of six to give a panoramic appearance, with a coloured reproduction of Niagara Falls at night on the back.”
There are pictures of Angel and Venice in the Design Council Slide Collection (http://vads.ahds.ac.uk/ (http://vads.ahds.ac.uk/)) - unfortunately, Niagara Falls aren't visible - too tacky for the Design Council, perhaps?
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Hi Heidi,
According to Matt Freier, the AH 'Lido' pattern glasses were apparently made in avocado green, honey gold, aquamarine, turquoise and clear, and in this shape came in 5 oz (juice), 10 oz (tumbler), and 12 oz (tumbler) sizes. There are twelve shapes in the range including a ball shaped water jug. http://home.comcast.net/~mfreier/lido.htm
Lido is apparently often mistaken for AH Milano, (including by Replacements http://www.replacements.com/webquote/AHCMILG.htm).
I'm not sure whether it has the stippling at the top though, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it was a local and/or Asian variation.
Cheers!
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Just to add a little more info re differences to the pot, the footed Nevada glasses by Ravenhead have clear feet, at least on the blue ones.
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I'm pretty certain I saw Nevada glasses in a smoky grey on Sunday