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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Germany => Topic started by: saorsa on December 16, 2011, 04:25:24 PM
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Hello All
can anyone identify this lamp?
cased glass cloisonne effect , the glass base is 7 inches tall , then the fitting on top
the base is very much in the style of whitefriars ie polished and inverted
here are some pics
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/7/8/4/7/7/webimg/532441796_o.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/7/8/4/7/7/webimg/532441871_o.jpg
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/7/8/4/7/7/webimg/532441940_o.jpg
many thanks Greg
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Yes wmf ikora almost certainly and therefore NOT in the style of whiteffriars.
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Hi Greg,
that Ivo is always so fast... ;D I´d agree with Ikora. What makes it special is the fact, that
it´s from their Ikora Medusa range. These items are very similar to Loetz Schaumglas BTW, but
not that easy to find and I haven´t seen a Medusa lamp at all by now. Great find!
I wonder if it glows under UV?
Cheers,
Dirk
edit: Unfortunetaly I don´t have the Ikora book at hand to check the exact date, but somewhere
1930´s... Sometimes the metal mounting has the WMF ´Turmmarke´ somewhere, a stylised
tower.
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Thanks All
it was a find at a sale today, so im rather happy , i will try the uv test if i can , it will be listed on ebay, probably on sunday, i will of course mention the messageboard, thanks again for all your help
Greg
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Gosh, I have a vase in this colourway... it doesn't glow with UV, it's just yellow and white.
I had suspected it might be WMF Ikora........ (it's packed away)
thanks for the info re. the name being Medusa! :clap:
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Better check it here, Sue. Like I said - it´s quite easy to confuse with Loetz foam. :)
Here are a few examples on Alfredo Villanueva-Collado´s site:
http://sites.google.com/site/loetzandglass/loetz-4--from-n-to-w
Shape and size will be a good indicator.
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It's a WMF sort of shape - a flared trumpet on a rounded, integral foot - and the glass is very thick - not nearly as delicate as the Loetz, Dirk. I think it's just under 8" tall.
I'm fairly sure it was id'd as WMF a good while ago - I just didn't know the name - or that it was an unusual colourway - although I've not seen any more since I found mine. :smg:
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That´s great, Sue! :kissy:
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I really appreciate the link, Dirk, thank-you!
(Even though it makes my WMF bit look a bit dull in comparison.. ::) )
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Hi Greg,
edit: Unfortunetaly I don´t have the Ikora book at hand to check the exact date, but somewhere
1930´s... Sometimes the metal mounting has the WMF ´Turmmarke´ somewhere, a stylised
tower.
Good afternoon Dirk...... From your response I'm assuming rightly or wrongly that there is a book contianing WMF Lamp styles etc.... I have the current Ikora book on bowls vases etc but desperately seeking one on lamps. If there is one available I would very much appreciate details of how I might obtain a copy please.
Regards and many thanks
Gareth
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Hi Gareth,
an interesting point! Indeed there are no lamps in the Ikora book now you mention it and to my regret I
don´t have an explanation. A theory: possibly they were shaped from the same moulds as the vases?
At least in this case
example on Kilian´s site (http://www.glaskilian.de/Tischlampe-IKORA-Glas-circa.143+B6YmFja1BJRD0xNDMmcHJvZHVjdElEPTM0NzMmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTQzJmRldGFpbD0_.0.html)
we can see a strong resemblance to the 1936 vase on page 151 of the book.
Beyond that I have to commit I´m rather clueless... :ac1:
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Hi Gareth,
an interesting point! Indeed there are no lamps in the Ikora book now you mention it and to my regret I
don´t have an explanation. A theory: possibly they were shaped from the same moulds as the vases?
At least in this case
example on Kilian´s site (http://www.glaskilian.de/Tischlampe-IKORA-Glas-circa.143+B6YmFja1BJRD0xNDMmcHJvZHVjdElEPTM0NzMmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTQzJmRldGFpbD0_.0.html)
we can see a strong resemblance to the 1936 vase on page 151 of the book.
Beyond that I have to commit I´m rather clueless... :ac1:
Hi Dirk.....Ok ...and many thanks for the prompt response....much appreciated..... maybe oneday someone will.... :X:
Regards
Gareth
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There was a book published by Arnoldsche called WMF Ikora-Beleuchtungskoerper der WMF in 2006 ISBN 3897901927. It can be found on amazon.de but not on the Arnoldsche publisher's web site. Maybe it is out of print.
Anton
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Hi Anton,
thanks for the info! I did some googling and now I wonder if the book was really published at all. Maybe they were
just meaning to publish it but never did? All I could find were announcements and a picture of the book cover - not
a single copy around, a review or anything else... ???
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Hi Dirk,
You are correct. The book wasn't published. I wrote to Arnoldsche Art Publishers and got this reply:
The third book of the WMF book series isn’t published. We have published the first two volumes – WMF Ikora & Myra Glass and WMF Ikora Metall. Unfortunately the third books was a proposal. We are sorry to give you no better news.
With best regards
Bettina Goldschmidt
Project Manager
Maybe if enough people contact Arnoldsche they might reconsider publishing the Ikora lamp book.
Anton
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Good idea, Anton! ;D
Thank you for the information. It´s a pity...
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Many thanks for the updates....... and a real shame as these are popular and collectible items ....and deserving to be recognised.
Gareth
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sadly the pics in the first posting are not visible any more