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Title: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: PAUL H on May 24, 2009, 02:04:42 PM
Hi can anyone confirm this is a Borske Sklo item, I think its a Olives pattern
but I haven't seen this shape before its 186mm high and weighs 510 grams. Thanks Paul
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: PAUL H on June 06, 2009, 10:50:20 AM
Hi all I'm desperate to find out if this is an olives pattern... I have noticed that where the bowl joins
the stem there is a cross on the base that would denote a four part mould being used, I'm almost
sure its a Borsk'e Sklo item and possibly quite scarce any ideas.. regards Paul.
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 06, 2009, 02:03:22 PM
Hi Paul,
sorry I have not replied sooner, I had not been sure .

This piece is Borské sklo. I have purchased same piece with label. So even not found it catalogues for the moment, I assume that we should attribute it like Borské sklo,  big olives optic.

Jindrich
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 06, 2009, 02:07:07 PM
I would say it was Borske Sklo (the four-part mould is correct), but not Olives, rather Ball, as the windows are ball- and not olive-shaped. The enamelled windows are Nemo. There are also other window shapes with appropriate names. Scarce I would doubt; Mark Hill uses the phrases "vast numbers" and "immensely popular" for these designs and they also had a long production run. Yours might just be one of the slightly more unusual shapes
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 06, 2009, 03:40:16 PM
Well, the difference between "Ball" and "Olives" pattern is not in shape of moulded ovals but in their ordering.
"Ball" pattern has ordered "balls" in more-less horizontal rows whereas "Olives" pattern has "olives" staggered - see attached pictures.

Jindrich
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 06, 2009, 03:50:25 PM
Some problems with pictures downloading...

Big olives
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 06, 2009, 04:08:29 PM
They're al in staggered horizontal rows in those pictures Jindrich. They would have to be aligned so that four of the mouldings formed a square rather than a diamond to be any different. Why would you call a pattern olives if they weren't olive-shaped, i.e., oval shaped. The glass in the olives picture does appear to have ovals though and some of the vases definitely have moulded ovals.
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: PAUL H on June 06, 2009, 04:19:02 PM
Thank you both.. I'm pleased and relieved its Borske Sklo it always helps to get an attribution.  :hiclp:
Paul
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 06, 2009, 04:31:23 PM
Once more Christine,
I have pasted there two times BALL :-) becouse of error in downloading. Try to trust me - I have several examples of BALL and OLIVES patterns - the staggered versus line ordering is apparent.

Jindrich
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 06, 2009, 04:37:04 PM
Balls
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 06, 2009, 04:38:09 PM
Olives

more you can find in CGR 1959/11
Jindrich
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 06, 2009, 04:50:23 PM
We can also generally say that "Ball" pattern has ovals much smaller that pattern originaly named "Great olives"
(unfotunately downloading of pictures crashes and I must hurry to pub  ;D)

The next paterns are SPIRAL, BAMBOO, CHECK (KARO).
Jindrich
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Jindra8526 on June 06, 2009, 04:51:57 PM
Bamboo
Title: Re: Borske Sklo Olives Brandy Glass Style Vase.
Post by: Lustrousstone on June 06, 2009, 05:25:10 PM
Balls

I see the difference now, thanks That must mean that all the examples we've had on here so far are Olives, because as far as I recollect we haven't seen this ordering where there is no vertical alignment at all.